ICE ICE baby - the immigration thread

[LVAllen]

Bro, what do gay dead bodies have to do with this, like at all?

Think you're confusing the Great Writ with the Great Brit (Freddie Mercury).

[Maximus]

pattern of disappearing detainees

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/0...rders-00771727

Other judges have raised similar alarms. U.S. District Judge John Gerrard, an Obama appointee based in Nebraska who is helping handle a backlog of Minnesota cases scolded the Trump administration for an effort “to frustrate judicial review by moving detainees around the country repeatedly.”

In a particularly dramatic case, ICE detained a 19-year-old woman on Jan. 14 — the night she witnessed an alleged assault on a federal agent that resulted in an agent shooting a man in the leg — and quickly transported her to Texas and then New Mexico, frustrating her attorney’s attempt to file a habeas petition in Minnesota. Her attorney then raced to file petitions in her other two known locations to ensure they were lodged before she could be deported. ICE moved her despite a Minnesota judge’s order to bar her deportation because of her potential testimony in the criminal case.

The saga ended late Thursday when a federal judge in New Mexico — who had already deemed the Trump administration’s mass detention practices illegal in other cases — ordered the woman’s immediate return to Minnesota and release from custody. The reason: Her 1-year-old son, whom she was separated from while in detention, was badly burned and required emergency surgery.

Remarkably, another man from the same building as the woman was arrested that night as well and shipped quickly to Texas, first El Paso then San Antonio. In that case, another judge ripped the administration’s rapid-fire transfers and ordered the man returned and released.

[myboynoah]

pattern of disappearing detainees

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/0...rders-00771727

Damned sinister.

[wally]

Let's not speculate when we don't have to. Changing enforcement tactics from a border-centered to community strategy, not directing resources to deport mainly those with criminal records, a bloated budget that threw inexperienced masked heavily armed agents into community streets to prey on citizens and non-citizens alike, brazenly using deceptive tactics to apprehend suspects in situations like routine immigration meetings, openly defying the 4th amendment, buying warehouses and converting them to makeshift detention centers and refusing congressional oversight of them, and then killing US citizens and doing everything in their power to impede those investigations leading to DOJ officials to resign en masse. And so on.

I can meet you in the middle that the media chases stories that are of interest and important to them. Those of the mainstream variety typically lean left so it shouldn't be surprising that they will highlight human rights abuses and police brutality. While those on the right find stories about public safety and government authority important, so they focus on stories about violent immigrants.

Previous (Obama-era) strategies were not just 'border-centric' they also heavily involved local law enforcement in all locations, so that law-breaking illegal/undocumented's could be taken into ICE custody with minimal chance of violence. This is what I suspect Utah does well I suspect from JL's story is cooperate with ICE at the local level. I have heard that in MN, supposedly their Dept of Corrections has been cooperating with ICE but local LE has been instructed not to in some cases. Maybe that is not accurate. This might be what has prompted ICE to do 'sting' operations in the communities. In my opinion, this is not an effective way to do the job, but I don't have access to the intelligence (or the time to review it) that ICE uses to determine when a sting is necessary for an alleged offender. What I have also heard is that when ICE processes non-criminal illegal/undocumented persons, they aren't necessarily targeting them, but for their proximity to those with criminal backgrounds.

As for the 4th amendment, my understanding is that on these stings, there are warrants issued authorizing them? are you suggesting they are not? I think the courts will have to decide on whether ICE Officers actually had probable cause on a case-by-case basis in events where they weren't issued warrants. Buying warehouses sounds scary, not sure what relevance this point has to the discussion, but happy to hear it. If local authorities would better engage with federal agents, I would think that they could negotiate a better outcome than what we have been watching in MN, instead of fanning the flames and tacitly encouraging all manner of compounding (allegedly) illegal behavior in "counter-protesting" ICE.

I haven't been following how many DOJ officials have resigned in response to ICE, AI says 14-19, but I don't have the context to argue whether that constitutes 'en masse' or not.

My contention is that yes, while I believe that Trump's ICE is not handling things well, some of the problem could be a result of tacit encouragement by MN and officials of other states to impede ICE activities. There is also the whole MN wellfare fraud stuff that I am sure local and state officials in MN would much rather fade out of the public discourse in favor of the focus turning to ICE issues.

I find it morbidly comical that we see Tim Walz out in front of cameras telling people to resist ICE and then adding "peacefully" as an afterthought, similarly to Trump on J6. For the record, I hate both of these situations. I have enough hate in my heart for politicians on both sides of the aisle when they act like assholes!!!!

[dabrockster]

JL and you (Wally) have mentioned Utah and their success. Other states have had similar success with little to no protesting or issues. WV is another example. MN is the hotbed of protests by the liberal leaning people that reside there. I mean, hell. They voted Jesse Ventura as their Governor FFS..

Local law enforcement gets perks for partnerships with ICE that led to 650 arrests in West Virginia

An immigration sweep that resulted in more than 600 arrests in West Virginia was built on collaboration with a growing number of local law enforcement agencies, which in recent months have been rewarded with hard-to-pass-up incentives to work with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

“We couldn’t have done it without the help of the state and locals,” Michael Rose, the acting field office director in the Philadelphia region for ICE’s Enforcement and Removal Operations, said this past week on MetroNews Talkline.

ICE is giving in return: The agency late last year announced that an influx of federal cash meant it could offer valuable incentives like equipment, vehicles, overtime and bonuses for local law enforcement agencies signing cooperative agreements. Since then, the number of West Virginia agencies participating has ballooned.

https://wvmetronews.com/2026/02/08/l...hips-with-ice/

[BlueK]

JL and you (Wally) have mentioned Utah and their success. Other states have had similar success with little to no protesting or issues. WV is another example. MN is the hotbed of protests by the liberal leaning people that reside there. I mean, hell. They voted Jesse Ventura as their Governor FFS..



https://wvmetronews.com/2026/02/08/l...hips-with-ice/

Is it possible the DOJ is acting differently in blue states for political reasons? Also is ICE taking on a kind of expanded role in blue states beyond just immigration enforcement?

[Northwestcoug]

Previous (Obama-era) strategies were not just 'border-centric' they also heavily involved local law enforcement in all locations, so that law-breaking illegal/undocumented's could be taken into ICE custody with minimal chance of violence. This is what I suspect Utah does well I suspect from JL's story is cooperate with ICE at the local level. I have heard that in MN, supposedly their Dept of Corrections has been cooperating with ICE but local LE has been instructed not to in some cases. Maybe that is not accurate. This might be what has prompted ICE to do 'sting' operations in the communities. In my opinion, this is not an effective way to do the job, but I don't have access to the intelligence (or the time to review it) that ICE uses to determine when a sting is necessary for an alleged offender. What I have also heard is that when ICE processes non-criminal illegal/undocumented persons, they aren't necessarily targeting them, but for their proximity to those with criminal backgrounds.

As for the 4th amendment, my understanding is that on these stings, there are warrants issued authorizing them? are you suggesting they are not? I think the courts will have to decide on whether ICE Officers actually had probable cause on a case-by-case basis in events where they weren't issued warrants. Buying warehouses sounds scary, not sure what relevance this point has to the discussion, but happy to hear it. If local authorities would better engage with federal agents, I would think that they could negotiate a better outcome than what we have been watching in MN, instead of fanning the flames and tacitly encouraging all manner of compounding (allegedly) illegal behavior in "counter-protesting" ICE.

I haven't been following how many DOJ officials have resigned in response to ICE, AI says 14-19, but I don't have the context to argue whether that constitutes 'en masse' or not.

My contention is that yes, while I believe that Trump's ICE is not handling things well, some of the problem could be a result of tacit encouragement by MN and officials of other states to impede ICE activities. There is also the whole MN wellfare fraud stuff that I am sure local and state officials in MN would much rather fade out of the public discourse in favor of the focus turning to ICE issues.

I find it morbidly comical that we see Tim Walz out in front of cameras telling people to resist ICE and then adding "peacefully" as an afterthought, similarly to Trump on J6. For the record, I hate both of these situations. I have enough hate in my heart for politicians on both sides of the aisle when they act like assholes!!!!

A quick internet search said that the historical precedent is CBP can patrol US cities within a reasonable (~100 mile) distance from the border. That's one difference.

If sting operations like tricking immigrants who have pending claims to show up at immigration meetings then apprehending them happened in other admins, then that is morally wrong. If immigrants were shipped off to detention centers and moved around to evade detection and habeus corpus claims in other admins, that is morally wrong. I suspect that if even the most diehard liberal journalist were to stumble upon these incidents routinely happening in other admins, they would not ignore it. But if it did occur, I'm right there with you denouncing it no matter when it happened.

I'll leave it to the legal minds to opine whether or not administrative warrants pass muster with the 4th amendment. But it is jarring to watch masked armed men forcibly remove people from their homes with something less than a judicial warrant in the United States of America.

Certainly 'en masse' means something more locally then nationally, as what just happened in Minneapolis. Which also impedes prosecuting the Somali fraud cases, go figure.

[Northwestcoug]

When you've lost the curlers:

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[Bo Diddley]

When you've lost the curlers:

As I read that, I was assuming he was criticizing the quality of the ice sheet in the Olympics. I heard the guy from the mixed doubles team complaining about it after one of the earlier games.

[PaloAltoCougar]

Is it possible the DOJ is acting differently in blue states for political reasons? Also is ICE taking on a kind of expanded role in blue states beyond just immigration enforcement?

Lol. Possible indeed. Consider that there are more than ten times as many undocumented immigrants in each of Florida and Texas as there are in Minnesota,. Where would one want to concentrate ICE forces for best results? The problem is that the result Steven Miller seeks is the kind of response we've seen in Minnesota. Creating division and chaos enables him and DHS to play to the law and order crowd, painting their good faith opponents as domestic terrorists.

[myboynoah]

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[dabrockster]

ICE will be leaving MN.

Live updates: Federal authorities announce end to Minnesota immigration crackdown

The Trump administration is ending the immigration crackdown in Minnesota that led to thousands of arrests, violent protests and the fatal shootings of two U.S. citizens over the past two months, border czar Tom Homan said Thursday.

The operation called the Department of Homeland Security’s “largest immigration enforcement operation ever” has been a flashpoint in the debate over President Donald Trump’s mass deportation efforts, flaring up after Renee Good and Alex Pretti were killed by federal officers in Minneapolis.

The U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement operation focused on the Minneapolis-St. Paul area resulted in more than 4,000 arrests, Homan said, touting it as a success.

“The surge is leaving Minnesota safer,” he said. “I’ll say it again, it’s less of a sanctuary state for criminals.”

https://apnews.com/live/trump-immigr...ange-2-12-2026

[Shaka]

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I'd like to see the 30 seconds that preceded the video.

[myboynoah]

I'd like to see the 30 seconds that preceded the video.

Same here. Even better, I'd like to see the body cam tape from all of them, especially the guy who likes to throw women around and spray pepper gas. $60 billion and only now are they thinking about getting body cams.

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[LVAllen]

Remember the "attempted murder of ICE officers" by shovel?

Yeah, they were lying about that shit.

Evidence has come to light that is materially inconsistent with the Complaint, so the government is asking to dismiss with prejudice.

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...smissal021226/