ICE ICE baby - the immigration thread

[YOhio]

I used to stay out of any threads where TedBot was posting tiresome tweets during the election. It looks like TedBot has now been replaced by NoahBot.

6 tweets in one hour this morning? Dude, take a breather and "go touch grass", as the kids say these days. NoahBot is becoming just as tiresome/tedious as TedBot was.

First off, I miss TedBot. He was awesome and hilarious. Second, NoahBot will never become tiresome. Even if he's full on lib and argues with Greg Wrubell on twitter he's still our guy.

[myboynoah]

I used to stay out of any threads where TedBot was posting tiresome tweets during the election. It looks like TedBot has now been replaced by NoahBot.

6 tweets in one hour this morning? Dude, take a breather and "go touch grass", as the kids say these days. NoahBot is becoming just as tiresome/tedious as TedBot was.

Just letting you all know how our $60 billion is being spent. I get it, it can be tiresome to constantly be faced with violations of basic human and civil rights (some protected by the constitution) by agents of the Government of the United States of America. It's depressing. Believe me, I look forward to the day such reports become a rarity (like they were 18 months ago).

But until then, buckle up!

[myboynoah]

First off, I miss TedBot. He was awesome and hilarious. Second, NoahBot will never become tiresome. Even if he's full on lib and argues with Greg Wrubell on twitter he's still our guy.

Oh man, somebody sees my tweets!



Greg kind of stepped in it and closed responses to his tweets. But before he did I was able to tell him how much I enjoyed his calls of the games, and he gave me a like! Me, little ole mbn, a like from Greg Wrubell! Highlight of my life.

I guess I am kind of a lib now, as the ground has shifted and free trade/free market believers, firm believers in medial science, and advocates of our constitutional rights have now become libs. But I ain't no democrat.

[BigPiney]

Oh man, somebody sees my tweets!



Greg kind of stepped in it and closed responses to his tweets. But before he did I was able to tell him how much I enjoyed his calls of the games, and he gave me a like! Me, little ole mbn, a like from Greg Wrubell! Highlight of my life.

I guess I am kind of a lib now, as the ground has shifted and free trade/free market believers, firm believers in medial science, and advocates of our constitutional rights have now become libs. But I ain't no democrat.

I saw that. It was great. Greg, a canadian, should not be lecturing people on how to be americans.

[myboynoah]

He made it sound like they generally go after specific people rather that doing sweeps.



Both

I appears that ICE in Utah is operating as ICE has traditionally operated. That is a good thing.

[wally]

We had some cool neighbors who moved to Minneapolis earlier in 2025 to be near their son and his family. They are super left-leaning in their politics, and when this ICE stuff started happening, I looked them up on social media and sure enough, like, 6-10 posts a day about all the goings-on.

Here are VERY important questions for y'all:

1) Will Trump out-deport Obama? Obama sitting high on 3.1 M deportations vs. Trump's 1.5 M. Given the current level of pushback, I think Trump is gonna lose this one and it will STING. Prediction: Trump falls short of Obama, but to pad his ego, he alleges fake numbers from the Obama administration, and while patting himself on the back, declares the final numbers are a win for him.

2) Were the Obama deportations just, like way more humane and cool than the Trump deportations to avoid all this backlash? My guess is that, absent protestors getting all up in the way of ICE doing their jobs, ICE is probably operating fairly similarly. I short, My take is this is a classic Red v. Blue case of "when we do it it's okay, but when you do it it's treason." I swear, both sides are so willfully dumb.

[Northwestcoug]

We had some cool neighbors who moved to Minneapolis earlier in 2025 to be near their son and his family. They are super left-leaning in their politics, and when this ICE stuff started happening, I looked them up on social media and sure enough, like, 6-10 posts a day about all the goings-on.

Here are VERY important questions for y'all:

1) Will Trump out-deport Obama? Obama sitting high on 3.1 M deportations vs. Trump's 1.5 M. Given the current level of pushback, I think Trump is gonna lose this one and it will STING. Prediction: Trump falls short of Obama, but to pad his ego, he alleges fake numbers from the Obama administration, and while patting himself on the back, declares the final numbers are a win for him.

2) Were the Obama deportations just, like way more humane and cool than the Trump deportations to avoid all this backlash? My guess is that, absent protestors getting all up in the way of ICE doing their jobs, ICE is probably operating fairly similarly. I short, My take is this is a classic Red v. Blue case of "when we do it it's okay, but when you do it it's treason." I swear, both sides are so willfully dumb.

If the plummeting polls for Trump's immigration policies, widely reported human rights abuses, and nationwide protests are just a symptom of 'classic Red v. Blue', then I gotta hand it to the Obama admin and MSM for keeping his abuses hidden for so long.

Or, now stay with me here, we can plainly see what is obviously right before our eyes and judge correctly that this round of immigration enforcement is unprecedented.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Wally, where the hell have you been, man?

[LVAllen]

We had some cool neighbors who moved to Minneapolis earlier in 2025 to be near their son and his family. They are super left-leaning in their politics, and when this ICE stuff started happening, I looked them up on social media and sure enough, like, 6-10 posts a day about all the goings-on.

Here are VERY important questions for y'all:

1) Will Trump out-deport Obama? Obama sitting high on 3.1 M deportations vs. Trump's 1.5 M. Given the current level of pushback, I think Trump is gonna lose this one and it will STING. Prediction: Trump falls short of Obama, but to pad his ego, he alleges fake numbers from the Obama administration, and while patting himself on the back, declares the final numbers are a win for him.

2) Were the Obama deportations just, like way more humane and cool than the Trump deportations to avoid all this backlash? My guess is that, absent protestors getting all up in the way of ICE doing their jobs, ICE is probably operating fairly similarly. I short, My take is this is a classic Red v. Blue case of "when we do it it's okay, but when you do it it's treason." I swear, both sides are so willfully dumb.

The number of habeas corpus petitions being heard and granted say "no, ICE's actions are pretty unprecedented."

[wally]

Wally, where the hell have you been, man?

Doing useful stuff. But I am feeling like being a little more useless, so here I am!

[wally]

If the plummeting polls for Trump's immigration policies, widely reported human rights abuses, and nationwide protests are just a symptom of 'classic Red v. Blue', then I gotta hand it to the Obama admin and MSM for keeping his abuses hidden for so long.

Or, now stay with me here, we can plainly see what is obviously right before our eyes and judge correctly that this round of immigration enforcement is unprecedented.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/lost-in-detention/

I thought it was common knowledge that the Media likes to rag on Trump more than they liked to rag on Obama?

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/07/u...ata-shows.html

Let me meet you in the middle (I thought I was kind of already in the middle, but maybe I am not) and I'll come halfway to your position and assume that ICE is using some unprecedented tactics (how many and at what rate compared to under Obama, we can speculate) but could you also perhaps admit that the media seems to be paying a lot more attention to this than when the Democrat was doing it (with albeit maybe more palatable tactics)?

If it helps, I will concede that I do not like Trump, never voted for him, and I stand firmly as a cowardly independent who, for whatever reason, has a hard time picking a team to die with. (this because you cannot see that I am not wearing a red hat. ... well not THAT red hat. )

[Moliere]

We had some cool neighbors who moved to Minneapolis earlier in 2025 to be near their son and his family. They are super left-leaning in their politics, and when this ICE stuff started happening, I looked them up on social media and sure enough, like, 6-10 posts a day about all the goings-on.

Here are VERY important questions for y'all:

1) Will Trump out-deport Obama? Obama sitting high on 3.1 M deportations vs. Trump's 1.5 M. Given the current level of pushback, I think Trump is gonna lose this one and it will STING. Prediction: Trump falls short of Obama, but to pad his ego, he alleges fake numbers from the Obama administration, and while patting himself on the back, declares the final numbers are a win for him.

2) Were the Obama deportations just, like way more humane and cool than the Trump deportations to avoid all this backlash? My guess is that, absent protestors getting all up in the way of ICE doing their jobs, ICE is probably operating fairly similarly. I short, My take is this is a classic Red v. Blue case of "when we do it it's okay, but when you do it it's treason." I swear, both sides are so willfully dumb.

In politics optics matter more than actions and Obama and Trump both know that. I’m sure Trump like making it look like he’s deporting everyone and anyone when in fact he’s losing out to the more surgical Obama.

[wally]

The number of habeas corpus ...

Bro, what do gay dead bodies have to do with this, like at all?

[Northwestcoug]

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/lost-in-detention/

I thought it was common knowledge that the Media likes to rag on Trump more than they liked to rag on Obama?

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/07/u...ata-shows.html

Let me meet you in the middle (I thought I was kind of already in the middle, but maybe I am not) and I'll come halfway to your position and assume that ICE is using some unprecedented tactics (how many and at what rate compared to under Obama, we can speculate) but could you also perhaps admit that the media seems to be paying a lot more attention to this than when the Democrat was doing it (with albeit maybe more palatable tactics)?

If it helps, I will concede that I do not like Trump, never voted for him, and I stand firmly as a cowardly independent who, for whatever reason, has a hard time picking a team to die with. (this because you cannot see that I am not wearing a red hat. ... well not THAT red hat. )

Let's not speculate when we don't have to. Changing enforcement tactics from a border-centered to community strategy, not directing resources to deport mainly those with criminal records, a bloated budget that threw inexperienced masked heavily armed agents into community streets to prey on citizens and non-citizens alike, brazenly using deceptive tactics to apprehend suspects in situations like routine immigration meetings, openly defying the 4th amendment, buying warehouses and converting them to makeshift detention centers and refusing congressional oversight of them, and then killing US citizens and doing everything in their power to impede those investigations leading to DOJ officials to resign en masse. And so on.

I can meet you in the middle that the media chases stories that are of interest and important to them. Those of the mainstream variety typically lean left so it shouldn't be surprising that they will highlight human rights abuses and police brutality. While those on the right find stories about public safety and government authority important, so they focus on stories about violent immigrants.

[myboynoah]

He made it sound like they generally go after specific people rather that doing sweeps.



Both

Seems to confirm what your friend said.

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