ICE ICE baby - the immigration thread

[falafel]

No, I still post here.

crap! lol, I guess we still have some comedy chops in common, despite our differences regarding Shrinking.

[falafel]

??? I still post here.

You, however -- we are nothing alike.

[Pelado]

You, however -- we are nothing alike.

So true.

[myboynoah]

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[myboynoah]

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[myboynoah]

Going after the worst of the worst.

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[Northwestcoug]

More of that war-like behavior in Minneapolis. Drawing guns in full sight of ICE? Wow that's news. Err.....

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[PaloAltoCougar]

Interesting essay: When Mormons say to comply with ICE incursions, we're forgetting our own history.. Referring to the 1857 federal army incursion into Utah:

What the Mormons’ resistance looked like in practice was far more brazen than anything we have witnessed in Minnesota to date.

“Proceed at once to annoy them in every possible way,” Latter-day Saint leader Gen. Daniel H. Wells ordered. “Use every exertion to stampede their animals, and set fire to their trains. Burn the whole country before them and on their flanks. Keep them from sleeping by night surprises. Blockade the road by falling trees, or destroying the fords when you can.” Wells insisted that they “take no life” in these acts of protest.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Interesting essay: When Mormons say to comply with ICE incursions, we're forgetting our own history.. Referring to the 1857 federal army incursion into Utah:

Gosh I just love it when people lecture fellow church members on how to practice their religion relative to politics.

[LVAllen]

Interesting essay: When Mormons say to comply with ICE incursions, we're forgetting our own history.. Referring to the 1857 federal army incursion into Utah:

I don't think they are lecturing on how to practice religion, just pointing out that this is the sort of thing that people with less power have done in the past. Personally, I prefer the Whistling & Whittling Brigrade in Nauvoo. When unwelcome strangers came to harass the residents, young men would follow them around, whistling loudly. They'd wouldn't ask any questions or threaten them outright, just whistle in large groups near the suspicious stranger.

[YOhio]

I don't think they are lecturing on how to practice religion, just pointing out that this is the sort of thing that people with less power have done in the past. Personally, I prefer the Whistling & Whittling Brigrade in Nauvoo. When unwelcome strangers came to harass the residents, young men would follow them around, whistling loudly. They'd wouldn't ask any questions or threaten them outright, just whistle in large groups near the suspicious stranger.

Ha! That would be an insane deterrent being followed by a bunch of whistling bowl cut polygamist kids. Like a scene from a horror movie.

[Northwestcoug]

There is so much going on with immigration that it deserves a dedicated thread. Here you go you.

It seems like emotions are so high over this topic that it can be hard to decipher truth from propaganda in the news cycle, social media, etc. Case in point:

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The NYT article does in fact mention the fact that the officer was attacked. But the news of the shooting set off a new wave of protests and outrage.

And here's the almost inevitable walkback from the story that started this thread:

Photographic evidence from the shooting scene of a Venezuelan man by federal agents last month in Minneapolis supports the account of witnesses there — and appears to undercut the narrative provided by federal officials.

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security has repeatedly claimed that an officer fired a single shot in self-defense during a violent encounter involving a shovel and a broom on Jan. 14, shortly after a man fled from a traffic stop during a targeted enforcement effort.

But at a federal court hearing in St. Paul on Tuesday, an attorney for one of the men accused of assaulting that officer showed a federal judge and several reporters photographs on his laptop depicting a single bullet hole through the front door of the north Minneapolis home. Additional photographs show damage consistent with a bullet fragment lodged in a bedroom wall down the hallway — suggesting it traveled between a mattress and a portable crib in a room where several small children sleep.

That supports what family members have said all along: A federal agent shot at them through the front door, striking 24-year-old Julio Cesar Sosa-Celis in the thigh, while they were inside the threshold of the residence.

We should not be surprised in the slightest that they lie.

[myboynoah]

And here's the almost inevitable walkback from the story that started this thread:



We should not be surprised in the slightest that they lie.

Best way to decipher truth: if ICE/CBP/DHS are talking, they are lying.

[myboynoah]

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[myboynoah]

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