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  • Northwestcoug
    Cocked and Loaded
    • May 2011
    • 17935

    #571
    Propublica ID's the officers who killed Pretti. They were CBP agents with years of experience. Like Renee Good's killer, it isn't a function of inadequate training of newbies, and I hope that becomes a main part of the story.
    "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
    "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
    - SeattleUte

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    • Shaka
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 10437

      #572
      Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
      I guess I'll put it here, because it could become another pretext for an ICE invasion.
      Nick Shirley is back on the case and thinks California child care fraud might be worse than Minnesota!

      I look forward to Musk and JD Vance hyping him up.


      The messenger must die!

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      • USUC
        Chronic Poseur
        • Apr 2010
        • 8775

        #573
        Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post

        You don’t think In-N-Out is way overrated?
        In N Out is a good fast food burger. What I don't get the hype for is Shake Shack. Crinkle fries need to be smothered in sauce to be "good." Canes sauce is good so they can get away with it. Shake shack doesn't.

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        • myboynoah
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 21719

          #574
          Pretty awesome ruling from the judge.

          Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

          For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

          Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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          • frank ryan
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 12278

            #575
            Originally posted by USUC View Post
            I'm pretty sure California wears its political corruption and wasteful spending as a badge of honor. A barely coherent Davis County kid is going to frame it in a new way that's worse than already understood?
            Of course he is.
            That's what he did in Minnesota and it led to ICE being deployed and killing people.
            This is crazy you guys don't see a problem with this. Ppl Like I said Vance and Musk will amplify him.
            Just because he is a dumb kid from Davis county doesn't mean his work shouldn't be scrutinized. Hell, that's probably more of tip to look at it critically.

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            • Jeff Lebowski
              Corporate lackey for Jesus
              • Nov 2008
              • 69500

              #576
              Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
              Pretty awesome ruling from the judge.
              "awesome"

              I am totally fine with the family getting a reprieve. I agree that there is a more orderly and sane way to do things. That being said, I have two problems with the ruling:

              1) The ruling seems awfully short on specific laws and statues and procedures that were violated - kind of like a "vibe ruling". Does that make is easier for the DoJ to appeal? I don't know.

              2) The overall tone and language of the ruling make me want to barf. He could have issued the same ruling without the silly performative nonsense. This is basically a leftist version of the memes, f-bombs, and crap we get from the White House, and people like Kristi Noem and JD Vance. God help us.

              Doesn't surprise me that this is a judge from Texas. For those of you that think we should elect judges, this is the kind of BS you get when that happens.
              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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              • dabrockster
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 10886

                #577
                Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

                Of course he is.
                That's what he did in Minnesota and it led to ICE being deployed and killing people.
                This is crazy you guys don't see a problem with this. Ppl Like I said Vance and Musk will amplify him.
                Just because he is a dumb kid from Davis county doesn't mean his work shouldn't be scrutinized. Hell, that's probably more of tip to look at it critically.
                He hasn’t even produce a single video and Frankie is already pearl-clutching the audacity of it and doing his best to minimize the fact that fraud is most likely worse than MN.

                But clings to this idea that Trump sent troops based on this kid’s videos.

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                • Moliere
                  One man.....one pie
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 27808

                  #578
                  Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

                  Of course he is.
                  That's what he did in Minnesota and it led to ICE being deployed and killing people.
                  This is crazy you guys don't see a problem with this. Ppl Like I said Vance and Musk will amplify him.
                  Just because he is a dumb kid from Davis county doesn't mean his work shouldn't be scrutinized. Hell, that's probably more of tip to look at it critically.
                  Wait, you think that Nick Shirley's "reporting" in MN is what led to ICE being deployed there? Do you even have a shred of evidence of that claim other than your typical vagueposting?
                  "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                  • chrisrenrut
                    Strikes and Gutters
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 2260

                    #579
                    Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                    Wait, you think that Nick Shirley's "reporting" in MN is what led to ICE being deployed there? Do you even have a shred of evidence of that claim other than your typical vagueposting?
                    Let's ask Gemini: Was Operation Metro Surge based on allegations of Somali fraud?

                    Yes, Operation Metro Surge was initiated by the federal government in late 2025 as a direct response to, and justified by, allegations of massive, systemic fraud involving Somali Americans in Minnesota
                    .
                    While the administration framed the operation as a crackdown on criminal activity related to pandemic-era relief funds (specifically the Feeding Our Future case), the actions have been described by critics as a pretext for a wider, politically motivated immigration sweep.
                    Key Details on the Connection:
                    • The Allegations: Federal authorities and supporters of the administration accused members of the Minnesota Somali community of participating in a massive fraudulent scheme that potentially stole billions in federal food aid.
                    • The Response: Following these allegations, and fueled by political rhetoric, the administration deployed thousands of federal agents to the Minneapolis area for what was described as the largest immigration operation in the agency's history.
                    • Contradicting Evidence: Despite the stated aim of targeting the fraud, an analysis showed that very few of those arrested (only 23 out of thousands) were from Somalia, and none of them had direct, proven links to the major social service fraud cases under investigation.
                    • Impact: The operation resulted in widespread fear and, according to a lawsuit by Minnesota's Attorney General, appeared to be targeting the community generally rather than specifically investigating the fraud.
                    In summary, the alleged fraud was the public justification and catalyst for the operation, but critics argue the subsequent, widespread ICE activity was not directly linked to those specific criminal cases.






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                    • Northwestcoug
                      Cocked and Loaded
                      • May 2011
                      • 17935

                      #580
                      When you’ve lost (check notes) Ammon freaking Bundy, then you know you have the makings of an electoral disaster:

                      The anti-government militia leader can’t make sense of his allies’ support for ICE violence.
                      "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                      "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                      - SeattleUte

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                      • Copelius
                        Maker of eyeballs
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 4032

                        #581
                        Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                        Doesn't surprise me that this is a judge from Texas. For those of you that think we should elect judges, this is the kind of BS you get when that happens.
                        Um, He's a fed, which means he was appointed. By Bill Clinton in 94 to be exact. Maybe this is an argument for mandatory retirement (he's 78), but not against judicial elections.
                        “Every player dreams of being a Yankee, and if they don’t it’s because they never got the chance.” Aroldis Chapman

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                        • frank ryan
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 12278

                          #582
                          Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                          Wait, you think that Nick Shirley's "reporting" in MN is what led to ICE being deployed there? Do you even have a shred of evidence of that claim other than your typical vagueposting?
                          Moli, you've clearly got some personal dislike. Maybe disagree with my points and dial down the hostility.

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                          • BlueK
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 7152

                            #583
                            Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
                            When you’ve lost (check notes) Ammon freaking Bundy, then you know you have the makings of an electoral disaster:

                            https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/20...mp-ice/685849/
                            It actually makes some sense. He"s radically anti federal government.

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                            • Northwestcoug
                              Cocked and Loaded
                              • May 2011
                              • 17935

                              #584
                              Originally posted by BlueK View Post

                              It actually makes some sense. He"s radically anti federal government.
                              You've got a point.
                              "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                              "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                              - SeattleUte

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                              • frank ryan
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 12278

                                #585
                                Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post

                                You've got a point.
                                Before is got gobbled up by MAGA types, the Libertarian Party used to have a very liberal plank is their platform on immigration. Far more open borders than democrats.

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