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  • Originally posted by Maximus View Post

    maybe not, if he isnt dead he'll still be a king maker. sigh.
    I think we are being naive when we say Trumpism only works with Trump.

    The party has been radically changed and he’s grooming a handful of people to take his place. The successful one to rise will be able to capture the MAGAs with their own specific style and as we’ve seen the corporate Repubs will fall in line.

    JD Vance could be that guy, Kristi Noem possibly, Elise Stefanik, Matt Gaetz could be if he wins governorship in FL, lots of people that mirror his political style that could be far more dangerous than he.

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    • Originally posted by Maximus View Post

      maybe not, if he isnt dead he'll still be a king maker. sigh.
      He can try. He hasn't made too many kings lately though, has he? All of his anointed lost their elections last go round.
      Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

      Dig your own grave, and save!

      "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

      "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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      • That's just more bullshit to get his troops riled up. He will never do that, just like he never built a Mexico-financed wall. They have done actual scientific studies that show that of all the non-bovine things in the known universe, Trump's mouth is the closest to resembling a bull's anus. The second is the mouth of that dumb-butt Texas Lt Gov. Third is the famous Bull Anus Nebula. True story.


        Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

        For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

        Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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        • To me this kind of anti-democracy stuff the Republicans are fond of is crappy. We will throw out your ballot because of an error in the way you wrote the date on the outside envelope even if it was received in time. Has nothing to do with the eligibility of the voter and the rule exists only for the purpose of eliminating votes that they calculate may be more likely favorable to the other party but undoubtedly killing some of their own in the process. The Supreme Court needs to stop this kind of garbage.

          https://www.npr.org/2024/03/27/12337...ballots-ruling

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          • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
            To me this kind of anti-democracy stuff the Republicans are fond of is crappy. We will throw out your ballot because of an error in the way you wrote the date on the outside envelope even if it was received in time. Has nothing to do with the eligibility of the voter and the rule exists only for the purpose of eliminating votes that they calculate may be more likely favorable to the other party but undoubtedly killing some of their own in the process. The Supreme Court needs to stop this kind of garbage.

            https://www.npr.org/2024/03/27/12337...ballots-ruling
            It seems silly that a handwritten date is required when a postmark would provide a better time stamp.

            I don't think these shenanigans are limited to the GOP, though. The one that drives me nuts is the Democrats opposition to Voter ID laws. As an electoral strategy I get it. But it certainly makes the hand-wringing about the GOP being anti-democracy come across as less than sincere.

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            • Originally posted by fusnik View Post
              I think we are being naive when we say Trumpism only works with Trump.

              The party has been radically changed and he’s grooming a handful of people to take his place. The successful one to rise will be able to capture the MAGAs with their own specific style and as we’ve seen the corporate Repubs will fall in line.

              JD Vance could be that guy, Kristi Noem possibly, Elise Stefanik, Matt Gaetz could be if he wins governorship in FL, lots of people that mirror his political style that could be far more dangerous than he.
              Wouldn't surprise me if Trump is grooming people but I guarantee it's not so they can take his place.

              He only cares about himself and doesn't want anyone to take his place - ever.
              "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
              - Goatnapper'96

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              • Originally posted by fusnik View Post

                I think we are being naive when we say Trumpism only works with Trump.

                The party has been radically changed and he’s grooming a handful of people to take his place. The successful one to rise will be able to capture the MAGAs with their own specific style and as we’ve seen the corporate Repubs will fall in line.

                JD Vance could be that guy, Kristi Noem possibly, Elise Stefanik, Matt Gaetz could be if he wins governorship in FL, lots of people that mirror his political style that could be far more dangerous than he.
                Yes, our democracy has been changed for the worst due to Trump, and lots will use his ideas in the future. I don't see any of the people you mention rising up and dominating national politics like Trump.
                Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                Dig your own grave, and save!

                "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                • Originally posted by Pelado View Post

                  Wouldn't surprise me if Trump is grooming people but I guarantee it's not so they can take his place.

                  He only cares about himself and doesn't want anyone to take his place - ever.
                  Ha, I agree with that. He's not looking to the future, at least not a future that doesn't include him.
                  Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                  Dig your own grave, and save!

                  "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                  "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                  GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                  • Originally posted by Pelado View Post

                    Wouldn't surprise me if Trump is grooming people but I guarantee it's not so they can take his place.

                    He only cares about himself and doesn't want anyone to take his place - ever.
                    Interesting take, and I bet you are correct. He would never want anyone else to approach his greatness, especially after his death (may it come quickly).
                    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                    For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                    Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                    • Trump posting violent imagery of a bound and gagged Biden. Another remind why voting for Trump is unacceptable.

                      https://www.meidastouch.com/news/tru...ound-with-rope

                      Trump and Trumpism won't just fade away, it needs to be repudiated and pushed back. If you have Let's Go Brandon stickers and flags; you're part of the problem.

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                      • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                        Trump posting violent imagery of a bound and gagged Biden. Another remind why voting for Trump is unacceptable.

                        https://www.meidastouch.com/news/tru...ound-with-rope

                        Trump and Trumpism won't just fade away, it needs to be repudiated and pushed back. If you have Let's Go Brandon stickers and flags; you're part of the problem.
                        I want nothing to do with anyone who is a Trump supporter. As far as I'm concerned, if you support Trump, you're a shitty person, and I have family members who are included in that. I have siblings who I will likely never speak to again, whose funerals I will not attend. They mean nothing to me.
                        "The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane

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                        • Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post

                          I want nothing to do with anyone who is a Trump supporter. As far as I'm concerned, if you support Trump, you're a shitty person, and I have family members who are included in that. I have siblings who I will likely never speak to again, whose funerals I will not attend. They mean nothing to me.
                          Consider this a sign that perhaps you are overdoing it.
                          τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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                          • Originally posted by All-American View Post

                            Consider this a sign that perhaps you are overdoing it.
                            Not even close. The antipathy I have for Trump can not be measured.
                            "The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane

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                            • Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post

                              I want nothing to do with anyone who is a Trump supporter. As far as I'm concerned, if you support Trump, you're a shitty person, and I have family members who are included in that. I have siblings who I will likely never speak to again, whose funerals I will not attend. They mean nothing to me.
                              You might want to get some help.

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                              • Originally posted by Shaka View Post

                                You might want to get some help.
                                I do get help. It doesn't help.
                                "The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane

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