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  • falafel
    loves to talk on things
    • Mar 2009
    • 37950

    #2026
    Originally posted by Commando View Post

    A 40% among Independents seems unrealistic, never mind sustainable...
    12 point spread with independents. That's the ball game right there.
    Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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    • Jeff Lebowski
      Corporate lackey for Jesus
      • Nov 2008
      • 69636

      #2027
      Originally posted by Commando View Post

      A 40% among Independents seems unrealistic, never mind sustainable...
      Yeah, lots of polls showing that if Trump is convicted of a crime, tons of people will bail on him.
      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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      • RC Vikings
        Known Heterosexual
        • Nov 2008
        • 8789

        #2028
        Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
        As predicted by everyone but fusnik, Biden starting to open a lead on Trump.

        https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...innipiac-poll/
        Over on CB they are finding all these polls with Trump winning. Low gas prices, market up and if other commodities are like potatoes you will see those prices dropping. A lot of independents are going to go with I'm okay with this for the next four years over the uncertainty that Trump brings.

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        • Commando
          Explosivo
          • Feb 2009
          • 20748

          #2029
          Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

          Yeah, lots of polls showing that if Trump is convicted of a crime, tons of people will bail on him.
          OMG they gave Trump the longest runway EVER if they started out thinking it was about even and are waiting for a conviction. This asshole JUST tried to steal the election. I just don't think people are really engaged yet. This gap is going to widen and Trump is going to go full Rumpelstiltskin...
          "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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          • Donuthole
            Official Outgayer
            • Nov 2008
            • 25255

            #2030
            Originally posted by Commando View Post

            OMG they gave Trump the longest runway EVER if they started out thinking it was about even and are waiting for a conviction. This asshole JUST tried to steal the election. I just don't think people are really engaged yet. This gap is going to widen and Trump is going to go full Trumpelstiltskin...
            FIFY
            Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

            There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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            • Jeff Lebowski
              Corporate lackey for Jesus
              • Nov 2008
              • 69636

              #2031
              Originally posted by Commando View Post

              OMG they gave Trump the longest runway EVER if they started out thinking it was about even and are waiting for a conviction. This asshole JUST tried to steal the election. I just don't think people are really engaged yet. This gap is going to widen and Trump is going to go full Rumpelstiltskin...
              I shudder to think what the democrats would do to our economy with full control of the white house, senate, and house, but we really need a resounding clean sweep in 2024 to send an unmistakable message about Trump and MAGA. These are desperate times.
              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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              • Commando
                Explosivo
                • Feb 2009
                • 20748

                #2032
                Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                I shudder to think what the democrats would do to our economy with full control of the white house, senate, and house, but we really need a resounding clean sweep in 2024 to send an unmistakable message about Trump and MAGA. These are desperate times.
                I think the economy will keep on like it's trending now and be just fine. Another Trump term absolutely won't be just fine.
                "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                • Bo Diddley
                  Senior
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 18771

                  #2033
                  Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                  I shudder to think what the democrats would do to our economy with full control of the white house, senate, and house, but we really need a resounding clean sweep in 2024 to send an unmistakable message about Trump and MAGA. These are desperate times.
                  I stopped worrying about that a long time ago. Remember when the GOP was the party of fiscal responsibility? Yeah, I'm having a hard time remember that as well.

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                  • USUC
                    Chronic Poseur
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 8782

                    #2034
                    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                    I shudder to think what the democrats would do to our economy with full control of the white house, senate, and house, but we really need a resounding clean sweep in 2024 to send an unmistakable message about Trump and MAGA. These are desperate times.
                    The economy will probably sputter along as it is now. The expansion of the regulatory state, increased kickbacks for unions, poorly designed environmental policies that will have no net benefit (kickbacks for special interests), and a full on attack of the judicial as his policies are kept in check. But I feel like DEI will continue to wither with him in office again. If Trump is elected it will blow new life into it.

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                    • fusnik
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 4475

                      #2035
                      Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                      As predicted by everyone but fusnik, Biden starting to open a lead on Trump.

                      https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...innipiac-poll/
                      Yikes a national poll?

                      The swing state Morning Consult poll:

                      NC - Trump +10
                      NV - Trump +8
                      GA - Trump +8
                      MI - Trump +5
                      WI - Trump +5

                      And these polls where Trump loses support if he’s convicted of a felony? Don’t buy them.

                      After all he’s done a felony conviction, that will look politicized, is going to be the final straw for an independent voter? LOL.

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                      • fusnik
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 4475

                        #2036
                        Originally posted by USUC View Post

                        The economy will probably sputter along as it is now. The expansion of the regulatory state, increased kickbacks for unions, poorly designed environmental policies that will have no net benefit (kickbacks for special interests), and a full on attack of the judicial as his policies are kept in check. But I feel like DEI will continue to wither with him in office again. If Trump is elected it will blow new life into it.
                        LOL, sputter along. Read an article.

                        For all your supplications for rational independent thought and discussion and your misgivings of the lamestream media you sure know how to vomit the talking points of standard fare FoxNews, OAN and Newsmax.


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                        • Jeff Lebowski
                          Corporate lackey for Jesus
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 69636

                          #2037
                          Originally posted by fusnik View Post

                          Yikes a national poll?

                          The swing state Morning Consult poll:

                          NC - Trump +10
                          NV - Trump +8
                          GA - Trump +8
                          MI - Trump +5
                          WI - Trump +5

                          And these polls where Trump loses support if he’s convicted of a felony? Don’t buy them.

                          After all he’s done a felony conviction, that will look politicized, is going to be the final straw for an independent voter? LOL.
                          You should seek some help. I am worried about you.
                          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                          "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                          "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                          • falafel
                            loves to talk on things
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 37950

                            #2038
                            Originally posted by fusnik View Post

                            LOL, sputter along. Read an article.

                            For all your supplications for rational independent thought and discussion and your misgivings of the lamestream media you sure know how to vomit the talking points of standard fare FoxNews, OAN and Newsmax.

                            Come back after the election bro.
                            Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                            Dig your own grave, and save!

                            "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                            "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • LVAllen
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 3257

                              #2039
                              Originally posted by fusnik View Post

                              Yikes a national poll?

                              The swing state Morning Consult poll:

                              NC - Trump +10
                              NV - Trump +8
                              GA - Trump +8
                              MI - Trump +5
                              WI - Trump +5

                              And these polls where Trump loses support if he’s convicted of a felony? Don’t buy them.

                              After all he’s done a felony conviction, that will look politicized, is going to be the final straw for an independent voter? LOL.
                              So Nevada, who hasn't voted for a Republican President since 2004, gives Trump 13% better than he did in 2020?

                              I know cannabis is legal here, but maybe the pollsters should lay off it.

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                              • Jeff Lebowski
                                Corporate lackey for Jesus
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 69636

                                #2040
                                Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                                Yeah, lots of polls showing that if Trump is convicted of a crime, tons of people will bail on him.
                                Case in point:

                                https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...onvicted-2024/

                                Majority of swing-state voters in new poll wouldn’t vote for Trump if convicted

                                A majority of voters in swing states say they wouldn’t vote for former President Trump in the upcoming election if he were convicted of a crime, a poll released Wednesday found.

                                The Bloomberg News/Morning Consult survey found that among voters in the swing states of Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, 53 percent of respondents said they were unwilling to vote for the former president if he is convicted in one of his multiple criminal cases.
                                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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