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  • Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
    In the Trump era of politics, it’s amazing to me just how much I’ve forgotten of the utter shit show and abuses of the Trump presidency. This article jarred my memory of one of the more dangerous aspects of it, his push to politicize the military:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...p-coup/675375/

    take a stroll down memory lane with Milley and others, and remember what kind of president many in the GOP want to have again.
    Great read. Thanks for linking it. I love Milley. There's a great culture in the US military for staying out of politics. I have no fear of a military coup or an illegal move on the citizenry.

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    • Originally posted by BlueK View Post

      Would a Trump supporter ever read this? How do they explain the endless list of former military leaders, members of his cabinet his staff, his lawyers, etc., who have all said the same about him? Every single one is lying?
      They are all part of the swamp.
      "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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      • Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post

        Great read. Thanks for linking it. I love Milley. There's a great culture in the US military for staying out of politics. I have no fear of a military coup or an illegal move on the citizenry.
        I get that but don't underestimate how sinister the Trump culture is. There is speculation he will try to install loyalists and make life hell for those who aren't, and do a greater degree than before.

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        • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

          I get that but don't underestimate how sinister the Trump culture is. There is speculation he will try to install loyalists and make life hell for those who aren't, and do a greater degree than before.
          He did that at the end of his term. He put in a loyalist as SECDEF. I was concerned about that, but the senior officers were too strong for him to do much damage.

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          • Originally posted by BlueK View Post

            Would a Trump supporter ever read this? How do they explain the endless list of former military leaders, members of his cabinet his staff, his lawyers, etc., who have all said the same about him? Every single one is lying?
            Our resident trump fans seem silent on this.

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            • Originally posted by BlueK View Post

              Would a Trump supporter ever read this? How do they explain the endless list of former military leaders, members of his cabinet his staff, his lawyers, etc., who have all said the same about him? Every single one is lying?
              Our resident trump fans seem silent on this.

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              • Originally posted by Maximus View Post

                Our resident trump fans seem silent on this.
                We have resident Trump fans?
                "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
                - Goatnapper'96

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                • Originally posted by Maximus View Post

                  Our resident trump fans seem silent on this.
                  Perception is everything in politics. I'm no Trump supporter, but from my interactions with Trump supporters, they don't believe he is any worse than the "corrupt elite families of mainstream politicians." Us high information voters see the toxicity, the corruption, the incompetence of Trump world. But his supporters see inflation rampant, a mainstream media tipping the scales, the hypocrisy of the administrative state actively working against them, and the dementia riddled president. They'll gladly take Trump over that. They don't care about Jan 6th because they see that it was never a serious threat and was thwarted relatively easily.

                  We live in a populist moment that is a direct result of the rise of the information age. It's bigger than us and we are helpless to prevent it from running it's course. My hunch is that Biden beats Trump in the general, but I wouldn't put money on it.

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                  • Originally posted by Pelado View Post

                    We have resident Trump fans?
                    People who voted for him and probably will again.

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                    • Trump promotes completely unfounded conspiracy theory that off-shore windmills are killing whales.

                      We live in the dumbest of times.

                      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                      • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                        Trump promotes completely unfounded conspiracy theory that off-shore windmills are killing whales.

                        We live in the dumbest of times.

                        Do his supporters suddenly believe this crazy stuff also because he said it? This is nuts.

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                        • Originally posted by BlueK View Post

                          Do his supporters suddenly believe this crazy stuff also because he said it? This is nuts.
                          Don Quixote here going batty over some windmills.
                          "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                          • How is he thinking the windmills are inflicting damage on these whales? Is he thinking the whales are jumping out of the ocean and getting hit by the windmill blades?
                            "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
                            - Goatnapper'96

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                            • Originally posted by Pelado View Post
                              How is he thinking the windmills are inflicting damage on these whales? Is he thinking the whales are jumping out of the ocean and getting hit by the windmill blades?
                              its clearly an issue of sonic waves scrambling the whales' internal sonar, causing them to crash into the beach.
                              Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                              Dig your own grave, and save!

                              "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                              "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                              • Originally posted by Pelado View Post
                                How is he thinking the windmills are inflicting damage on these whales? Is he thinking the whales are jumping out of the ocean and getting hit by the windmill blades?
                                No idea. It is an absurd theory.
                                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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