2024 Presidential Election Thread

[Moliere]

Yeah, what is driving this? There are like 500k users of that twitter ripoff (not sure how twitter hasn't sued it out of existence, except that, well, Elon). Its not worth anything near 6 billion (and that its only the possible value of Trump's shares).





https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/26/marke...ial/index.html

It’s traded for one day on the exchange. There’s a reason IPO investors have to hold for six months. Let’s check back after two earnings cycles and see where it is then.

[Donuthole]

His smirk when he says it's his favorite book says everything.

[falafel]

We've got to bring back religion? Its going to come back, and its going to come back very strong.

I also love the idea that Trump doesn't want us doing anything to "offend God". Remind us what those Thou Shalts and Thou Shalt Nots are again?

[USUC]

Interesting. I am from Eastern Idaho (where most everybody is practically maga or maga-adjacent in their beliefs) but feel like this is a foreign take or at least one I haven't heard/considered, but it makes sense when I look at what the right wing pundits carry on about. I have never understood the pushback on education (yeah we get it that Christian fundamentalists don't like academics and haven't since evolution started), but I think those cultural differences are being politically exploited. After all, how much outrage are we going to feign for 'gender studies' or 'critical race theory?' People are so worried about their kids getting brainwashed at school they forget to not get brainwashed by hypnotic 'news' channels funneling so many of their talking points into your diet of Fox News, ( 'news' has become a pretty loose term). I hate the stupid culture war crap, which has turned 'patriots' into people who proudly proclaim 'maybe we need a dictator-- I hate to say it!' And no, that's not everybody- it's just the far right guys who dress up and turn out. But it has effects to the left of the spectrum far enough to be concerning.

Outside of the bombastic knuckleheads of conservative media, you won't hear many people say "elites" when referencing their dislike for Biden. It's an umbrella term for a number of issues they are unsatisfied with. It could mean the gender stuff, it could mean the public health officials exercising punitive power outside of their expertise, it could be the teachers unions who managed the pandemic poorly and were nakedly politically driven, it could be the student loan forgiveness that favors the workers in the governemnt and sectors that support Biden, etc.

lol.

Thanks Rich Lowry for explaining to us why you and your family will vote for Trump!

Your post reads like democrats live in District 1 of the Hunger Games and the real Americans live in Distrcit 13 and just want to rid themselves of President Snow.

This profile you’ve created of the Trump supporter dismisses the fact that 30% of rural Americans are democrats. Also minimizes that rural Americans and those outside the power structures of NYC and LA are overrepresented in the government, judiciary and own an entire ecosystem of social media/news.

I’ll save you the explanation, what this is is grievance politics. Half the country isn’t interested in building a better tomorrow, they are interested in making the other half pay for Obama and Trump is the perfect foil to express one’s racism without having to call someone a nigger.

Grievance politics is modern politics. This isn't unique to the right. The progressive movement's playback was taken by the current bomb throwers on the right. The grievance politics of the left is every bit as vicious and malicious as the right. There was a time when both Democrats and Republicans resisted this type of politics from their extremes (the religious right and the socialist left). But we live in a populist age. Biden is not as harmful of Trump. But the populist fever on the left and right is equally damaging to society. Each side can minimize their own crazies but they are both terrible for the country.

[PaloAltoCougar]

The weird belief among certain evangelicals and others that Trump is a religious person is an ongoing source of amusement and bewilderment for me. When any sentient being examines Trump's past, it's absolutely clear that his religion-related comments are made solely for political expediency and financial gain. Yes, I've read the claim that not a dollar from sales will go to Trump or his campaign, but I'd bet the farm that upfront money, before sales, was paid to him. Such a disgusting con man. If anyone can cite a single example at any point in Trump's life of Christ-like behavior, I'm all ears.

[Commando]

The weird belief among certain evangelicals and others that Trump is a religious person is an ongoing source of amusement and bewilderment for me. When any sentient being examines Trump's past, it's absolutely clear that his religion-related comments are made solely for political expediency and financial gain. Yes, I've read the claim that not a dollar from sales will go to Trump or his campaign, but I'd bet the farm that upfront money, before sales, was paid to him. Such a disgusting con man. If anyone can cite a single example at any point in Trump's life of Christ-like behavior, I'm all ears.

THEY'RE ONLY ARRESTING TRUMP BECAUSE HE'S IN THE WAY OF US!!!

[Maximus]

You, like many educated centrists have a fairly big blind spot to the vulnerabilities of the Biden coalition. "Elites" and elite institutions are on trial. You rightly name all these things that Trump and his cronies are guilty of. And all of this is a huge indictment on his character and fitness to be a president. But Biden is a part of, represents, and advocates on behalf of the elite class. And the elite class has been pretty awful as of late. Americans are generally ruled by the elite administrative state. Culture is shaped by the education system (which is increasingly batshit) and entertainment. Legacy media is a mouthpiece of the privileged class. It's kind of gross and overindulgent and everyone who isn't part of that class can see it. So it's the overwhelming power and corruption of the elite institutions vs sleezeball Trump.

It shouldnt be a surprise a lot of people view him as just a guy. That his cronies have no power without him. MAGA falls like a house of cards without him. He's an underdog against the system. I am more bullish on Biden's chances today than I was last month. This "anger at elites" may ultimately not be a winning strategy, especially given the grifters who have taken on the mantle of fighting for the little guy. But it shouldn't be surprising that Biden isn't the obvious choice to a lot of people out there.

trump is more elite than biden??

[Commando]

trump is more elite than biden??

NO you're getting this all wrong. He's the Every-man-champion-except-literally-shits-in-a-golden-toilet.

[USUC]

trump is more elite than biden??

Trump is an avatar. He is whatever his supporters want him to be. Trump is by definition an elite. But he is the enemy of progressive elites and elite institutions in the eyes of those who may vote for him.

[fusnik]

Trump is an avatar. He is whatever his supporters want him to be. Trump is by definition an elite. But he is the enemy of progressive elites and elite institutions in the eyes of those who may vote for him.

AKA he is Jim Jones and hes concocting the Jonestown brew.

And why are we supposed to take any of these people seriously?

[USUC]

AKA he is Jim Jones and hes concocting the Jonestown brew.

And why are we supposed to take any of these people seriously?

You may be the most apocalyptic person I have ever encountered.

[fusnik]

You may be the most apocalyptic person I have ever encountered.

Has he, and his movement, not led thousands to premature death during COVID?

Did he not lead thousands to the attempted coup of our country?

Are hundreds not arrested, charged and jailed for his psychopathy?

Even after all this has he not corrupted a political movement and has millions of devoted followers?

[Non Sequitur]

Wouldn't it be so unlike Donald Trump for one of his assets to be obscenely overvalued so that he could sell it higher or take out a loan against it?

I'm not sure any banks would like it as collateral, but I can easily imagine Trump selling off his shares when they're this high.

[Non Sequitur]

The weird belief among certain evangelicals and others that Trump is a religious person is an ongoing source of amusement and bewilderment for me. When any sentient being examines Trump's past, it's absolutely clear that his religion-related comments are made solely for political expediency and financial gain. Yes, I've read the claim that not a dollar from sales will go to Trump or his campaign, but I'd bet the farm that upfront money, before sales, was paid to him. Such a disgusting con man. If anyone can cite a single example at any point in Trump's life of Christ-like behavior, I'm all ears.

I guarantee you that Trump is not a fan of God. Trump takes shots at Lincoln, because it bugs him that Lincoln is more revered than he. I can only imagine how people revering God more than him must annoy Trump.

[Commando]

I guarantee you that Trump is not a fan of God. Trump takes shots at Lincoln, because it bugs him that Lincoln is more revered than he. I can only imagine how people revering God more than him must annoy Trump.

What do you mean he's not a fan of God?!? You don't see Biden out here selling autographed, Biden-approved King James Version Bibles at $60 a pop, do you? HA!