2024 Presidential Election Thread

[Commando]

I don't think Desantis is the boogyman like many here. I just don't think he has run a good campaign and as a result isn't electable.

Not sure I'd classify him as a 'boogeyman,' but I do know that he is genuinely a bad person who cleaned up his image for political office. He is a nonstarter for any office of consequence. He's doing enough damage in Florida as it is.

[Shaka]

I've never fired a high-powered rifle, so if I bought one and got a shot off at Trump from 3/4 of mile, Trump would never be in any real danger, because I wouldn't know what the hell I was doing. So, when it's all over am I guilty of attempted assassination or horseplay?

No, you're guilty of a logic fail for false equivalence.

[Shaka]

I agree with teh first part fo this but I think it was a failed insurrection...but one that never would have succeeded even if it had gone well. Trump doesn't have 50% of Americans support. He has maybe 20% that are adamant supporters and the rest are just loyal GOP voters that wouldn't support a coup or insurrection. Then you have hte swing voters that like some of what he did policy-wise and then some voters that don't like Biden so they vote Trump.

But, I have learned, to not underestimate Trump and his base after they won in 2016. I still think Trump loses again in 2024 despite where the polls are at today, but I'm also frustrated that the Democrats aren't doing what they need to do to solidify Trump losing. Biden is a very weak and vulnerable candidate and they knew that a year or more ago. An open primary would have been the best solution but the Democrats again aren't listening to reason and are instead wheeling out their weekend-at-Bernies candidate. It'll be a nail-biter again but Biden will win.

FTR, I'm voting in the GOP primary adn will likely vote for Haley. I'll then vote for Biden over Trump, but it won't matter since I live in Texas and Trump will easily win Texas...again.

You get it right. Trump doesn't have an outsized portion of the Republican base. What he does have is a large percentage of Republicans that will never vote for Biden. The Dems can't get out of their own way and offer up a reasonable candidate. If Trump wins you can just as easily blame the Democrat leadership as you can Republicans.

Just stop with the Gavin Newsome as viable. He's less palatable than Biden.

[Northwestcoug]

This guy has a fighting chance of winning the presidency:

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[Commando]

Just stop with the Gavin Newsome as viable. He's less palatable than Biden.

less palatable for whom? Dude would woodshed Trump- no questions asked.

[Maximus]

yep funny when people willing to vote for trump calls literally anyone else less palatable

[Maximus]

You get it right. Trump doesn't have an outsized portion of the Republican base. What he does have is a large percentage of Republicans that will never vote for Biden. The Dems can't get out of their own way and offer up a reasonable candidate. If Trump wins you can just as easily blame the Democrat leadership as you can Republicans.

Just stop with the Gavin Newsome as viable. He's less palatable than Biden.

if youre willing to vote for trump. and voted for trump, how can you blame democrats for trump with a straight face?

maybe the Rs should worry about getting a good candidate on their own. and maybe say mea culpa on putting in him office.

[Jeff Lebowski]

less palatable for whom? Dude would woodshed Trump- no questions asked.

You guys are funny. Newsome has tons of baggage. I think he is an amazingly talented debater and it would be interesting to see how he would fare on a national stage (which is why the dems should have done an open primary), but stop with the woodshed talk. Biden should woodshed trump, but it isn't happening.

[Jeff Lebowski]

if youre willing to vote for trump. and voted for trump, how can you blame democrats for trump with a straight face?

maybe the Rs should worry about getting a good candidate on their own. and maybe say mea culpa on putting in him office.

Come on. You are smarter than this. One of the main reasons we have Trump is because the dems gave us one of the most disliked candidates in history - Hillary Clinton.

Biden has terrible job approval numbers. Even a majority of democrats don't want him as their candidate in 2024.

[Shaka]

less palatable for whom? Dude would woodshed Trump- no questions asked.

He's a handsome, charismatic guy who has screwed up California. The dude would not woodshed Trump.

[Commando]

He's a handsome, charismatic guy who has screwed up California. The dude would not woodshed Trump.

Absolutely he would. Since the advent of TV the better looking candidate has always won, I've noticed. Trump is getting trounced by -- insert name here---/

[Maximus]

Come on. You are smarter than this. One of the main reasons we have Trump is because the dems gave us one of the most disliked candidates in history - Hillary Clinton.

Biden has terrible job approval numbers. Even a majority of democrats don't want him as their candidate in 2024.

republicans who support trump blaming democrats for trump winning is ...

yes hillary shouldnt have been the candidate but she didnt make trumpers support trump and ignore his history

the first blame is Rs for creating the cult

[Jeff Lebowski]

republicans who support trump blaming democrats for trump winning is ...

yes hillary shouldnt have been the candidate but she didnt make trumpers support trump and ignore his history

the first blame is Rs for creating the cult

You might be the most black-and-white thinker I have ever met.

[Maximus]

I'm not sure which part you disagree with. Rs nominated trump and it had nothing to do with hillary.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I'm not sure which part you disagree with. Rs nominated trump and it had nothing to do with hillary.

You are incapable of grasping nuance. I am going to start ignoring you.