2024 Presidential Election Thread

[LVAllen]

I'm just spitballing here, but I think having the state party chairman and the chairman of the largest county party indicted on felonies and scheduled for trial 4 weeks after my State's First In the West Caucus (and 4 weeks plus 2 days after my State's First In the West Primary) shows how dysfunctional my state's Republican party truly is.

[frank ryan]

man the dems are making ron say some crazy stuff

Sounds like Ron is saying: "I believe in free speech unless I don't like what they say."

[Commando]

Sounds like Ron is saying: "I believe in free speech unless I don't like what they say."

I mean- how can the founders possibly have conceived free speech as including things Ron DeSantis wouldn't approve of?!

[falafel]

I'm just spitballing here, but I think having the state party chairman and the chairman of the largest county party indicted on felonies and scheduled for trial 4 weeks after my State's First In the West Caucus (and 4 weeks plus 2 days after my State's First In the West Primary) shows how dysfunctional my state's Republican party truly is.

wait, what happened in our fair state?

[Maximus]

Hahaha ha get fed trump

[Jeff Lebowski]

Colorado Supreme Court removes Trump from 2024 ballot

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-ne...-23/index.html

In a stunning decision, the Colorado Supreme Court removed former President Donald Trump from the state’s 2024 ballot, ruling that he isn’t an eligible presidential candidate because of the 14th Amendment’s “insurrectionist ban.”

The ruling was 4-3 and will be placed on hold pending appeal until January 4, pending a certain appeal to the US Supreme Court, which could settle the matter for the nation.

[falafel]

Hahaha ha get fed trump

I assume this is what you're referring to?

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-ne...-23/index.html

[BigPiney]

Seems like a dumb move

[Maximus]

Why? Don't incite insurrection if you don't want to have the consequences of inciting insurrection

[Jeff Lebowski]

Seems like a dumb move

Will be interesting to see what SCOTUS does.

[Maximus]

Unfortunately we have individuals on the SC who participated in this attempted insurrection. So we don't get a unbiased ruling.

[USUC]

Unfortunately we have individuals on the SC who participated in this attempted insurrection. So we don't get a unbiased ruling.

[Northwestcoug]

Now do the same thing in red states with more electoral votes!

[Non Sequitur]

The way I understand it, since the original court ruled that Trump participated in the insurrection, the issue that was appealed was whether the 14th amendment applies to a President. When the case reaches the SC, isn't that the issue that will be ruled upon and not whether Trump participated in insurrection?

[All-American]

The way I understand it, since the original court ruled that Trump participated in the insurrection, the issue that was appealed was whether the 14th amendment applies to a President. When the case reaches the SC, isn't that the issue that will be ruled upon and not whether Trump participated in insurrection?

On appeal you can raise any issue that has not been waived. So, Trump can argue any point that he argued below, including whether or not his conduct constituted an insurrection.

I just got done reading the majority opinion and all three dissenting opinions. The majority opinion, of course, found that he engaged in insurrection. The dissenters responded, vigorously, to the suggestion that the procedures below were enough to allow Trump to be taken off the ballot. But not one dissenting opinion took issue with the finding that he engaged in insurrection. I found that very interesting.