2024 Presidential Election Thread

[smokymountainrain]

I’m sure this time out-trumping trump will move Florida Man up in the polls:

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the january 6ers simply got "caught up". destantis is a mess. i'm not ready to say he's worse than trump, but he's close and should never get close to the WH

[Non Sequitur]

Haha. That's an insult I rarely hear.

It's more of a lament than an insult. You're one of the smart ones, and if even you don't know better, what hope is there?

[Jeff Lebowski]

It's more of a lament than an insult. You're one of the smart ones, and if even you don't know better, what hope is there?

Ha. Claiming you pity me is an even bigger insult.

If you think I am downplaying the danger of a trump presidency by making that point, or that I am acting as a trump apologist in any way, then you aren't anywhere near as smart as you pretend to be.

[Maximus]

I am sorry for pointing out that most of the crap he is promising is not constitutional. He may try it anyway, but that is not the point.

consittutional is irrelevant to someone who has half the country wanting him to be a dictator

[Jeff Lebowski]

consittutional is irrelevant to someone who has half the country wanting him to be a dictator

And the other half will challenge these dumb ideas in court. What is your point?

Do you seriously think that an executive order only admitting immigrants "who like our religion" would withstand a legal challenge?

Do you not remember Trump and other MAGA folks getting their asses kicked over and over again in court with their bogus claims of election fraud?

[Bo Diddley]

consittutional is irrelevant to someone who has half the country wanting him to be a dictator

I still have faith in the guardrails of our democracy. The SC--the 6 to 3 conservative SC--will not sign off on crowning Trump as King.

[Commando]

Jack Smith just filed a writ of cert preemptively for Trump's m to dismiss alleging he has blanket 'presidential immunity' for the events of January 6. We'll find out what SCOTUS thinks of Trump for sure. Clarence Thomas probably ought to recuse himself on this one...

[Non Sequitur]

And the other half will challenge these dumb ideas in court. What is your point?

Do you seriously think that an executive order only admitting immigrants "who like our religion" would withstand a legal challenge?

Do you not remember Trump and other MAGA folks getting their asses kicked over and over again in court with their bogus claims of election fraud?

You're willing to harness yourself to precedent? Fifty years ago Richard Nixon resigned when faced with the shame of what he had done. That can no longer be cited as precedent, because the concept of political shame no longer exists. We're entering Thunder Dome. Anything that was once true can no longer be counted on.

[Maximus]

And the other half will challenge these dumb ideas in court. What is your point?

Do you seriously think that an executive order only admitting immigrants "who like our religion" would withstand a legal challenge?

Do you not remember Trump and other MAGA folks getting their asses kicked over and over again in court with their bogus claims of election fraud?

trump and supporters would kill to make it happen.

[Jeff Lebowski]

You're willing to harness yourself to precedent? Fifty years ago Richard Nixon resigned when faced with the shame of what he done. That can no longer be cited as precedent, because the concept of political shame no longer exists. We're entering Thunder Dome. Anything that was once true can no longer be counted on.

Harness myself? WTH are you talking about?

[PaloAltoCougar]

I'm hopeful the guardrails will hold, but I'm less optimistic than I was in early 2017. Trump is already talking about tasking the CIA and Justice Department with going after his enemies, and we can expect him to staff those and other agencies/departments with his obedient servants whose primary allegiance will be to il Duce, not the Constitution, unlike the large number of reasonable and seasoned veterans he started with in '17, nearly all of whom quit in frustration during the ensuing four years.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I'm hopeful the guardrails will hold, but I'm less optimistic than I was in early 2017. Trump is already talking about tasking the CIA and Justice Department with going after his enemies, and we can expect him to staff those and other agencies/departments with his obedient servants whose primary allegiance will be to il Duce, not the Constitution, unlike the large number of reasonable and seasoned veterans he started with in '17, nearly all of whom quit in frustration during the ensuing four years.

That all goes without saying. Trump: the sequel will be a disaster. But do you think all of the fair-minded judges in America will capitulate? Certainly didn't happen after the 2020 election. The judiciary is probably our only hope.

I can't believe we are having this conversation. Stupid democrats. How hard is it to run a decent candidate?

[Maximus]

stupid demorats?

again, what makes you think trump wouldnt do something violent?

I'd bet based on news stories, dozens if not hundreds of soliders would kill the entire congress and SC for trump if asked.

[Jeff Lebowski]

stupid demorats?

again, what makes you think trump wouldnt do something violent?

I'd bet based on news stories, dozens if not hundreds of soliders would kill the entire congress and SC for trump if asked.

This response has nothing to do with the point I raised.

[Maximus]

you are saying the judiciary will stop a president who is willing to kill to maintain his presidency

and then saying stupid democrats for ...trump being the leader of the republican party