2024 Presidential Election Thread

[fusnik]

Man, I don't know why nuance is so difficult for some of you.

It’s as if you haven’t been to Diz over the last 20 years.

It’s the most inclusive American institution and it’s been that way since before Zak Efron and HS Musical. What did you expect them to do? They are the largest employer in the state of FL with thousands of employees that are part of the LBGTQ community that have spouses and children that are directly impacted by the DSG bill.

Just because you fell for the culture war craziness that DeSantis started doesn’t mean they are unreasonable for saying they were opposed to said bill.

Admit it, you fell for the woke cultural war craze, defended it, and now to feel better you have to both sides Diz/DeSantis as if they are even close to being equally wrong. Lulz.

[Jeff Lebowski]

It’s as if you haven’t been to Diz over the last 20 years.

It’s the most inclusive American institution and it’s been that way since before Zak Efron and HS Musical. What did you expect them to do? They are the largest employer in the state of FL with thousands of employees that are part of the LBGTQ community that have spouses and children that are directly impacted by the DSG bill.

Just because you fell for the culture war craziness that DeSantis started doesn’t mean they are unreasonable for saying they were opposed to said bill.

Admit it, you fell for the woke cultural war craze, defended it, and now to feel better you have to both sides Diz/DeSantis as if they are even close to being equally wrong. Lulz.

You seem desperate to make this a debate about the merits of the bill rather than the point I actually made. Typical.

Disney is a private company and they are more than welcome to join culture wars if they want. I think it was a dumb strategic move. You pretend that they had no choice. Nonsense. Netflix is a bigger company than Disney and they were smart enough to not get sucked in.

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/13/10987...e-culture-memo

[beefytee]

Netflix is a bigger company than Disney and they were smart enough to not get sucked in.

In what way is Netflix a bigger company than Disney? I can't find a metric where Netflix would be considered bigger. Or are you making an expression like "Netflix was the bigger man"?

[Jeff Lebowski]

In what way is Netflix a bigger company than Disney? I can't find a metric where Netflix would be considered bigger. Or are you making an expression like "Netflix was the bigger man"?

My bad. Google error.

Either way, Netflix is a huge company.

[USUC]

Ding, ding, ding.

JL is only saying this because he defended the ‘don’t say gay bill’ which was a big yikes.

Even Trump knows it was PR:

https://mobile.twitter.com/SykesChar...C-kcCthuAtAAAA

"A big yikes" and "lulz" really give your parroted MSNBC talking points an air authority.

As much as reactionaries want to paint it this way, this isn't a straight black and white issue. DeSantis and Disney both stepped in it and now they are dealing with the fall out. The funny thing here is the suggestion that JL is a DeSantis admirer. Just pure blinding partisanship.

[beefytee]

I would describe both Netflix and Disney as companies that are struggling currently to "keep it together".

Open letters and contentious objecting employees are a problem that all big companies are struggling to deal with.

I agree that Netflix has the better approach, but definitely has its own negative repercussions.

[fusnik]

"A big yikes" and "lulz" really give your parroted MSNBC talking points an air authority.

As much as reactionaries want to paint it this way, this isn't a straight black and white issue. DeSantis and Disney both stepped in it and now they are dealing with the fall out. The funny thing here is the suggestion that JL is a DeSantis admirer. Just pure blinding partisanship.

The DSG bill and people, twisting themselves into believing it was anything other than political theater, is the definition of blinding partisanship.

DeSantis wasn’t trying to pass meaningful legislation to protect minors, he passed a bill so that on Fox interviews and podium speeches he could scream groomers to anyone who opposed his bill.

The conservatives in the country, including many here, fell for the bull shit because something something woke ideology.

Should I not fly Delta anymore because they pumped a bunch of money to back election deniers? No, because I’m a grown up who can synthesize nuance and understands what’s going on and why a company like Delta might cut a check to Chris Stewart. Diz wades in on a 80/20 issue and you act like it’s 1994 and they are lobbying for gay marriage.

[Uncle Ted]

The Republicans are starting to believe the winning campaign issue will be to push for war with Mexico!

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...tanyl-00091132

Head of Dallas FBI says Mexico is not a safe place to visit right now

The U.S. Department of State issued a level 4 alert for certain parts of Mexico, which is equal to warnings for Afghanistan and Iraq.
[...]

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/na...0-ae3dcbe83b1e

Given we bombed the F out of Afghanistan and Iraq because "they have WMDs!" and other "scary things" that Powell and other so call "intelligence" agents told us maybe we should bomb Mexico too. "Make Mexico Safe Again!"

[Pelado]

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/na...0-ae3dcbe83b1e

Given we bombed the F out of Afghanistan and Iraq because "they have WMDs!" and other "scary things" that Powell and other so call "intelligence" agents told us maybe we should bomb Mexico too. "Make Mexico Safe Again!"

Can you imagine how much safer Mexico would be with bombs dropping from the sky all the time? Brilliant!

[Maximus]

"A big yikes" and "lulz" really give your parroted MSNBC talking points an air authority.

As much as reactionaries want to paint it this way, this isn't a straight black and white issue. DeSantis and Disney both stepped in it and now they are dealing with the fall out. The funny thing here is the suggestion that JL is a DeSantis admirer. Just pure blinding partisanship.

Disney didn't step in anything. They have a large lgbt employee base and spoke up for them

Corps are people. This is no different from DeSantis going after an individual for expressing an opinion and then you defending it by saying the person shouldn't have talked

[BlueK]

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/na...0-ae3dcbe83b1e

Given we bombed the F out of Afghanistan and Iraq because "they have WMDs!" and other "scary things" that Powell and other so call "intelligence" agents told us maybe we should bomb Mexico too. "Make Mexico Safe Again!"

We all agree with you on Iraq. You can move on.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Disney didn't step in anything. They have a large lgbt employee base and spoke up for them

Silence is violence, right?

Corps are people. This is no different from DeSantis going after an individual for expressing an opinion and then you defending it by saying the person shouldn't have talked

Corps are people? Brace yourself for a scolding!

It’s weird to see so many Utahns batter Diz over this considering the role the church plays in politics and their agreement with Mitt about corporations being people.

[Maximus]

Silence is violence, right?



Corps are people? Brace yourself for a scolding!

do oyu admit it is a contradiction to be ok with the church opining and not be ok with disney opining?

[Jeff Lebowski]

do oyu admit it is a contradiction to be ok with the church opining and not be ok with disney opining?

I never once said that Disney didn't have a right to wade into the political arena. I said I believe it was a dumb decision on their part.

And if you think the LDS church is highly involved politically, you don't get out much.

[Maximus]

I never once said that Disney didn't have a right to wade into the political arena. I said I believe it was a dumb decision on their part.

And if you think the LDS church is highly involved politically, you don't get out much.

Uh nothing passes in Utah without the church's ok