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  • The key to countering china is isolationism? Lol. What an idiot.
    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
    "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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    • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
      The key to countering china is isolationism? Lol. What an idiot.
      No kidding. We're currently in a worldwide democracy recession (the movement toward democratic governance throughout the world peaked around 2006). If the U.S. were to withdraw worldwide, just as China and Russia are looking to expand, do people like RFK believe that dozens of countries teetering on the democratic/autocratic edge will move toward democracy?

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      • How interesting. Trump keeps taking moderate/left positions, presumably in reaction to DeSantis. Bud Light, siding with Disney, etc.

        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
        "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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        • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
          How interesting. Trump keeps taking moderate/left positions, presumably in reaction to DeSantis. Bud Light, siding with Disney, etc.
          So what does his base believe in? Are they conservative, or simply Trump loyalists?

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          • Here's something that should make y'all happy... Biden is going to announce he is running again on Tuesday!
            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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            • Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post

              So what does his base believe in? Are they conservative, or simply Trump loyalists?
              Oh, it's 100% a cult.
              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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              • lol they did not give a shit when he banged and paid off a porn star, denied the results of the election, kidnapped and put kids in cages while he deported the parents, and had a mob of hillbillies storm the capitol and smeared shit on the walls. I don't think their conscience is going to suddenly kick in because they disagree with his stance on abortion.
                "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                • Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post

                  So what does his base believe in? Are they conservative, or simply Trump loyalists?
                  The Pro Life folks are voting for RJK Jr now...

                  "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                  "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                  "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                  GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                  • Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post

                    So what does his base believe in? Are they conservative, or simply Trump loyalists?
                    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                    Oh, it's 100% a cult.
                    Yes. No question it's absolutely a cult of personality.

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                    • Admittedly I don’t follow what Donald trump says, but how is saying abortion should be left to the states (which I believe was the argument from republicans for decades) a pro choice stance?

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                      • Originally posted by Applejack View Post
                        Admittedly I don’t follow what Donald trump says, but how is saying abortion should be left to the states (which I believe was the argument from republicans for decades) a pro choice stance?
                        The hard right position is a national abortion ban. Major topic of discussion lately.
                        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                        "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                        • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                          The hard right position is a national abortion ban. Major topic of discussion lately.
                          After all these years of insisting that the states be the ones to decide. SMH

                          After further thought, which enumerated power that they are so fond of pointing out do they plan to use? The general police power? Oh wait, Hamilton v. Kentucky Distilleries Co. said no. The commerce clause? Only if they find a way around US v. Lopez. While consistency may be the hobgoblin of little minds, inconsistency in application of constitutional principals shows very little difference in the parties, just the intended results.
                          Last edited by Copelius; 04-21-2023, 11:08 AM.
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                          • Originally posted by Copelius View Post

                            After all these years of insisting that the states be the ones to decide. SMH

                            After further thought, which enumerated power that they are so fond of pointing out do they plan to use? The general police power? Oh wait, Hamilton v. Kentucky Distilleries Co. said no. The commerce clause? Only if they find a way around US v. Lopez. While consistency may be the hobgoblin of little minds, inconsistency in application of constitutional principals shows very little difference in the parties, just the intended results.
                            Yeah, it is kind of funny that the right loves to preach how the federal government should butt out until they want to use the federal government as a hammer on something.
                            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                            • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                              The key to countering china is isolationism? Lol. What an idiot.
                              He has zero support from maintastream democrats or progressives. He is another Tulsi Gabbard. Running for other interests with no chance in hell of winning.

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                              • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

                                He has zero support from maintastream democrats or progressives. He is another Tulsi Gabbard. Running for other interests with no chance in hell of winning.
                                Even if Joe runs again?

                                The poll, conducted April 13-17 among 1,230 U.S. adults, found only 26% of respondents would like to see Biden run again in 2024, versus 73% who said he shouldn’t.
                                https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisond...h=3fd4a6ed7e0d
                                "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                                "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                                "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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