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  • #5011
    Originally posted by YOhio View Post

    It doesn't really matter. Both sides will take the ugliest rumor about the other side and neither heaven nor hell will convince them it's incorrect. Republicans believed Hillary was molesting kids and harvesting their adrenochrome at a DC pizza parlor while Democrats believed Trump was getting golden showers from prostitutes in Moscow hotels. Rational thinking doesn't apply to partisans.
    I bring up Fred Trump in part because he worshipped him. Fred's rep was bad enough songs were written about him and he was arrested for participating in a violent klan rally.

    During Trump's civil rape civil trial there was some confirmation of his love for the N word. He got in legal trouble as a landlord for racial discrimination.

    You read about the ad he took out about the Central Park 5 and his refusal to apologize when they were exonerated.

    He has enfranchised racists. He had a cute dinner with Nick Fuentes and on and on. With due respect, which I have a ton of for you, this is not all just conspiratorial talk.

    Also, you have a point. It wouldn't be all that unusual for an upper class, brash entitled New Yorker to be racist. He'd still be a racist though.

    This is not pizza-gate to point out Trump's racism. That is silly to equate to Hillary drinking kid's blood. With Trump there isn't always a balancing equivalent to turn to like has often been the case in the past with our 2 party system.

    Trump is again showing his persona by coming at Kamala's racial background. He was the one who really pushed the brother narrative on Obama.

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    • #5012
      FTR, I think Ted would be fun to hang out with.

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      • #5013
        Originally posted by falafel View Post

        I don't get the sexual assault settlement concern. 1. Its not Shapiro. 2. It a settlement of a disputed sexual assault claim. Its not a judgment. He hasn't been convicted of a crime. The AG's office would be defending it and making the settlement recommendations based on any number of factors that don't imply guilt. If it lasts any longer than 30 seconds I'll be very surprised.
        Plus, campaigns never raise issues like sexual assault when their candidates have the same assaults in their own histories. So, that's what normal campaigns and candidates do. No doubt Trump will raise it.
        Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

        For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

        Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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        • #5014
          Rinse and Repeat

          Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

          For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

          Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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          • #5015
            Originally posted by falafel View Post

            I don't get the sexual assault settlement concern. 1. Its not Shapiro. 2. It a settlement of a disputed sexual assault claim. Its not a judgment. He hasn't been convicted of a crime. The AG's office would be defending it and making the settlement recommendations based on any number of factors that don't imply guilt. If it lasts any longer than 30 seconds I'll be very surprised.
            Plus, they are running against Trump so no sexual assault or other sexual issues will really matter
            "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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            • #5016


              Made me lol.
              “Every player dreams of being a Yankee, and if they don’t it’s because they never got the chance.” Aroldis Chapman

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              • #5017
                Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                • #5018
                  I think Trump is narrowing his appeal by his lack of commitment to Ukraine, Taiwan and NATO.

                  And he's meeting with Viktor Orban at Mar-a-Lago?

                  https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...p-war-ukraine/

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                  • #5019
                    Yes, she just said that!

                    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                    For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                    Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                    • #5020
                      Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post
                      I think Trump is narrowing his appeal by his lack of commitment to Ukraine, Taiwan and NATO.

                      And he's meeting with Viktor Orban at Mar-a-Lago?

                      https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...p-war-ukraine/
                      That should be unsurprising. The right media sphere has been embracing Orban as a model for Trump. Unsurprisingly Orban is very much aligned with Putin.

                      That's another reason why Russia bitching and kvetching about NATO is horseshit. NATO would need every nation to agree to enact article five and Orban and Erdogan would never let that happen.

                      People should look around at which world leaders are cheerleading for a Trump victory.


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                      • #5021
                        Someone is letting Kameleon Harris drink again...



                        Grandpa Joe is thinking, "Who the hell is this woman?"
                        "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                        "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                        "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                        • #5022
                          One thing Trump does well that Vance is horrible at doing is Trump knows how to reach people. He is able to connect and appear genuine. He will say they "quiet part," out loud. Even when it's offensive or bigoted (and it's irrational to pretend he isn't at this point), people find him refreshing. He can't articulate policy but he goes right to peoples insecurities and fears and they feel validated rather than condescended to.

                          Vance can't do that. Part of that is because he doesn't believe this shit, and his past makes some of evident. He presents as so unnatural. He has had less time to cosplay in this role.

                          Sounds he is also just disliked by people, and it must pretty bad for being shittalked so frequently.

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                          • #5023
                            Yeah, that Harris quote is totally lost on MAGA world. I am not surprised.
                            Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                            For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                            Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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                            • #5024
                              Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                              Yeah, that Harris quote is totally lost on MAGA world. I am not surprised.
                              I think it's fair to make fun of her word salad. She's got to tighten that nonsense up.

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                              • #5025
                                Why is Grandpa Joe always confused on where he is going after talking to the press?

                                "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                                "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                                "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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