I learned in church today

[Soccermom]

They probably thought they were doing you a favor. If you want to keep the scouting job, I would just give them a call and let them know.

I'm sure it is disappointing, and you're right that exactly what you were being released from should've been more clear. But I wouldn't spend too much time taking offense. I'll bet they would be surprised to learn that you didn't want to be released.

Yeah, I'm not really offended, just a little hurt. Every other time I have been released from a calling I get a heads up before. I don't even know how long ago they released me from that particular job. I know people do these things thinking they are doing others a favor, but it would be nice to get actual input from the person involved instead of assuming.

[myboynoah]

Yeah, I'm not really offended, just a little hurt. Every other time I have been released from a calling I get a heads up before. I don't even know how long ago they released me from that particular job. I know people do these things thinking they are doing others a favor, but it would be nice to get actual input from the person involved instead of assuming.

They should have called and met with you. Hopefully it was just an oversight.

[creekster]

They should have called and met with you. Hopefully it was just an oversight.

Agreed. I happen to know with 100% certainty that this sort of error can happen once in a while. Not cool when it happens. But likely just a mistake.

[Uncle Ted]

I learned I was apparently released from my calling but nobody bothered to tell me. Awesome.

I actually had 3 jobs--scouting advancement chair, compassionate service, and primary teacher. I asked to be released as a primary teacher because during my pregnancy I knew I would be inconsistent with my back pain and miss a lot. We have an autistic boy in the class and he needs consistency more than most, and besides, I knew I would miss several weekends for planned trips in addition to the back issues. Anyhow, I knew I got released from that calling but had no idea I was released from compassionate service (it wasn't announced when I was released from primary and nobody said anything), but I saw it in the RS bulletin when my name was no longer there. Now I wonder if they are gonna kick me out of scouts too. I don't know if it is just pregnancy hormones or what, but it really hurts. I don't understand why they couldn't have given me a simple phone call to let me know at least.

Maybe your bishop started reading the church handbook...

19.1.1 General Guidelines

[...]
If possible, a member is called to serve in only one calling, in addition to assignments as a home teacher or visiting teacher.
[...]

I always like this part too...

[...]
When a young man or young woman will be called to a Church position, a member of the bishopric obtains approval from the parents or guardians before issuing the calling.
[...]

I can't remember when a member of the bishopric has ever done this with my kids.

[Omaha 680]

I can't remember when a member of the bishopric has ever done this with my kids.

That's unfortunate. We were very careful to follow that instruction in the handbook during my stint in a Branch Presidency in Omaha.

Am I mis-remembering, or was there a time when husbands would be asked "permission" to issue a calling to his wife before the wife was approached? Either way, we always spoke to them as a couple regardless of which one was receiving the calling.

[Soccermom]

Maybe your bishop started reading the church handbook...



I always like this part too...



I can't remember when a member of the bishopric has ever done this with my kids.

Maybe :-) I love our bishop. And one of the counselors. But the counselor over my primary calling gives me looks of disgust ever since I asked to be released and I think his looks along with getting released from the other calling without being told just got to me. I didn't make the decision to stop teaching primary lightly. I think some people look at me and see nothing physically challenging other than my pregnant belly, so I don't think they get how painful and difficult back pain is. I get a shooting pain up my entire back every time I take a step, and it really sucks on stairs. Sitting or standing for long periods is really rough on most days too. I feel stupid enough on my own without anyone else judging me! Is there a wimp check test I can take LOL? I mean I always thought I was pretty tough to manage without ever taking pain meds before the pregnancy, and to manage to handle life, albeit at a much slower pace, at the present moment. But maybe I'm wimpy when it comes to pain!

The nice thing is, like I said, I have a great bishop and can just ask him directly. No use festering. If I festered over actions others in my ward take that cause pain and hurt I would be a major anti right now. :-) But I think most members of the church have good intentions even if they are misguided at times. I bet all members have been hurt at one time or another by the actions of someone else and all of us have hurt at least one other person. Just need to learn from our mistakes and move on!

And funny about asking if the kids can have a calling, because I think my ward has always done this, and I just got a call asking permission to extend a calling to my 15 year old last night.

[LA Ute]

I learned in church today

That's unfortunate. We were very careful to follow that instruction in the handbook during my stint in a Branch Presidency in Omaha.

Am I mis-remembering, or was there a time when husbands would be asked "permission" to issue a calling to his wife before the wife was approached? Either way, we always spoke to them as a couple regardless of which one was receiving the calling.

I don't know if it was required but I sure remember it happening a lot. All the bishoprics I've been in have refused to do it that way and asked the couple together, as your presidency did.

Soccermom, I'm glad your aren't letting the disappointed looks the counselor is giving you bother you. He seems to need an attitude adjustment.

[Moliere]

That's unfortunate. We were very careful to follow that instruction in the handbook during my stint in a Branch Presidency in Omaha.

Am I mis-remembering, or was there a time when husbands would be asked "permission" to issue a calling to his wife before the wife was approached? Either way, we always spoke to them as a couple regardless of which one was receiving the calling.

Our bishopric will always ask the husband permission to extend the calling to the wife if it's an older couple. By older, I mean someone around LA Ute's age or older. Those older people seemed to have lived during a time this process was actually consider kosher so the bishop and his counselors do what they can to not ruffle any feathers.

[Katy Lied]

By older, I mean someone around LA Ute's age or older.

Bwah!

[LA Ute]

By older, I mean someone around LA Ute's age or older.

PAC and 71 are both older than I am. Much, much older. I am a mere child by comparison.

[TripletDaddy]

So we've moved away from asking a husband for permission before giving a calling to his wife to having the husband present in the room while giving a calling to the wife.

Progress.

[hostile]

So we've moved away from asking a husband for permission before giving a calling to his wife to having the husband present in the room while giving a calling to the wife.

Progress.

In our ward I have only seen husband and wife present when a calling is being made to lead an auxiliary. Otherwise it is only the individual to whom the calling is being extended who is present.

[OceanBlue]

We always try to have both in on the calling. I've never had a spouse say go on without me.

[Pelado]

Given a choice between having 3:00 church and taking the 1:00 / 1:30 with a reversed schedule, I would pick the 3:00 every single time. There is just no point to taking young kids to sacrament at 4:00 after they've already had 2 hours of church.

Good point. I'd take the reversed schedule and leave before Sacrament.

[SandYFan]

Apparently, single, non-RM sisters can now receive their endowments.

Same for single, non-RM brethren.