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  • People who want to make you stop saying "Merry Christmas" are atheists under Satan's power.
    "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
    The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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    • Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
      People who want to make you stop saying "Merry Christmas" are atheists under Satan's power.
      Can't argue with that!
      "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

      Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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      • Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
        I learned once again that my neighbor across the street is a dick.
        So, let's hear it.
        "In conclusion, let me give a shout-out to dirty sex. What a great thing it is" - Northwestcoug
        "And you people wonder why you've had extermination orders issued against you." - landpoke
        "Can't . . . let . . . foolish statements . . . by . . . BYU fans . . . go . . . unanswered . . . ." - LA Ute

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        • Originally posted by DU Ute View Post
          So, let's hear it.
          He's just a hardliner. Bore testimony today that he would be a heavenly clerk when they opened the books of heaven. He just believes he does everything right yet he wouldn't walk 100 yards to help an old lady. Every time I get around him I think of lines of that Billy Joel song "I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints".

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          • Cleon Skousen's talk on the atonement was basically repeated verbatim by the visiting high councilman. I don't recall him ever citing his source. Nonetheless, it was kind of fun to hear him talk about us becoming Gods.
            Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
            God forgives many things for an act of mercy
            Alessandro Manzoni

            Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

            pelagius

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            • Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
              He's just a hardliner. Bore testimony today that he would be a heavenly clerk when they opened the books of heaven. He just believes he does everything right yet he wouldn't walk 100 yards to help an old lady. Every time I get around him I think of lines of that Billy Joel song "I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints".
              what the hell does that mean?
              Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
              God forgives many things for an act of mercy
              Alessandro Manzoni

              Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

              pelagius

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              • Originally posted by pellegrino View Post
                what the hell does that mean?
                That he would be clerk running the books up in heaven while they were going over someone's list of good and bad. He also said that Satan would act in the role as the prosecuting attorney. I guess I'm the HP group liberal (OLD RICKS COLLEGE professors in the group so it's not hard) and he is always over across the room shaking his head when I present my side.

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                • Originally posted by DrumNFeather View Post
                  Can't argue with that!
                  The sad thing is that no one refuted it, and the teacher agreed with the sister who said it.
                  "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                  The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                  • Originally posted by pellegrino View Post
                    Nonetheless, it was kind of fun to hear him talk about us becoming Gods.
                    Of course that topic would be news to Pres. Hinckley, and likely the church leadership, but is held as doctrinal by most of the membership. What percentage of the members present in the crowd agreed with the topic? Probably most of them.

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                    • I blew more than a few minds today in my class when I refuted the claim that D&C 20 stands for proposition that Jesus was born on April 6, 1 AD.
                      Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.

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                      • Originally posted by nikuman View Post
                        I blew more than a few minds today in my class when I refuted the claim that D&C 20 stands for proposition that Jesus was born on April 6, 1 AD.
                        I recall you talking about this before. Can you summarize again what is going on in that verse? I seem to recall that it was not part of the revelation but was inserted by the secretary or something.
                        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                        "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                        • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                          I recall you talking about this before. Can you summarize again what is going on in that verse? I seem to recall that it was not part of the revelation but was inserted by the secretary or something.
                          Yeah - it's actually quite simple. John Whitmer (I believe; may have been another Whitmer but I haven't looked it up today) added the first verse. It was viewed, apparently, as a semi-legal document (it being the formal church "charter" as it were) so it needed a formal introduction of date, or so the speculation goes. At any rate, the manner of introduction that he used (1830 years after the coming of our Lord) was the exact same introduction that he used in all sorts of other formal but completely non-scriptural documents.

                          Apparently the first usage of this as an argument for the exact birthdate of Christ was by BH Roberts in 1893. Talmage quoted that Roberts bit in Jesus the Christ, which is why it propagated as it did. But J. Reuben Clark, based on research, thought the date to be sometime in December, 5 B.C. Bruce R. McConkie agreed.

                          Bottom line is we don't really know. The entire A.D. designation was an invention from circa 850, so to get things a few years off isn't shocking. Plus it's been suggested that Jesus himself would have had no clue, since the Jews of the time didn't celebrate birthdays at all. And then you have the reconciliation of the Gregorian/Julian/Lunar/Jewish calendars. So I'm content to stick with Dec. 25 and not worry too much about it save for trivia.
                          Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.

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                          • Originally posted by DrumNFeather View Post
                            Or not at all, which is what the suggestion from their leaders was.
                            We request the young women disinfect all the nursery toys once a quarter. They fulfill this request.

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                            "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

                            "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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                            • Sarcasm has no place in the Gospel.
                              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                              • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                                Sarcasm has no place in the Gospel.
                                Well, that significantly cuts down on the Book of Isaiah. Probably a move for the better.
                                τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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