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  • Flystripper
    Degenerate Gambler
    • Nov 2008
    • 14087

    #1456
    Originally posted by San Juan Sun View Post
    Odds? LOL. You are talking about going from 0.1% to 0.2%. How do you like those odds, Lloyd Christmas?
    Pretty much.
    Dyslexics are teople poo...

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    • Jeff Lebowski
      Corporate lackey for Jesus
      • Nov 2008
      • 69409

      #1457
      Originally posted by San Juan Sun View Post
      Odds? LOL. You are talking about going from 0.1% to 0.2%. How do you like those odds, Lloyd Christmas?
      Meh. You are just saying that out of spite now. Trying to keep your MWC dream alive.

      Lots of national pundits have discussed this specific scenario.

      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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      • Flystripper
        Degenerate Gambler
        • Nov 2008
        • 14087

        #1458
        Umm I doubt SJS or I would complain if we somehow get in the the Big12. It probably isn't happening though.
        Dyslexics are teople poo...

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        • Jeff Lebowski
          Corporate lackey for Jesus
          • Nov 2008
          • 69409

          #1459
          Originally posted by Flystripper View Post
          Umm I doubt SJS or I would complain if we somehow get in the the Big12. It probably isn't happening though.
          That's the problem with you darned apostates. Not enough faith!
          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
          "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
          "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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          • CardiacCoug
            вот так штука
            • Nov 2008
            • 11013

            #1460
            The analytical side of me would like TCU with its FBS-best 26.5 ppg winning margin to get in. Now that I've heard everybody talk here and on TV I think 50% chance it's Ohio State, 25% each for TCU and Baylor to get in as the fourth team. Will be interesting to see what happens -- can't wait.

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            • Joe Public
              8.1 YPC
              • Apr 2011
              • 8498

              #1461
              Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
              They've each lost one. TCU's loss is better.
              Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post
              Head to head should trump that all day, every day.
              These discussions remind me of the 2000 season. Oklahoma was undefeated and a lock for a spot in the BCS championship game, but the second spot was highly debated. In the end, a one-loss FSU team went over a one-loss Miami team that had defeated FSU and a one-loss Washington team that was ranked behind Miami even though Washington beat Miami that season.
              "What are you prepared to do?" - Jimmy Malone

              "What choice?" - Abe Petrovsky

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              • scottie
                Junior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 5247

                #1462
                My prediction on what's announced later today:

                1. Bama
                2. Oregon
                3. Florida St
                4. TCU

                I think the committee has shown since they began their ranking how heavily they factor who a team has lost to, trumping head-to-head (as illogical as that may be, they've shown that's how they prioritize it). TCU, Baylor, and Ohio State all had their one losses prior to the first CFP ranking, and the first one had TCU #7, Baylor #13, and Ohio St #16; they've never had Baylor higher than TCU. TCU's loss looks better than a 14 pt loss to WV and a 14 pt loss at home to VaTech.

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                • UVACoug
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 2685

                  #1463
                  Originally posted by The_Douger View Post
                  I do know that. And that is why Baylor is the best team in the Big 12.
                  Baylor lost to WVU, who TCU beat. TCU had a stronger SOS. There are arguments in favor of both. I think TCU has a better resume, but Baylor won the conference according to the rules (until Bowlsby decided to chuck the rules and award two trophies).

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                  • UVACoug
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 2685

                    #1464
                    Originally posted by scottie View Post
                    My prediction on what's announced later today:

                    1. Bama
                    2. Oregon
                    3. Florida St
                    4. TCU

                    I think the committee has shown since they began their ranking how heavily they factor who a team has lost to, trumping head-to-head (as illogical as that may be, they've shown that's how they prioritize it). TCU, Baylor, and Ohio State all had their one losses prior to the first CFP ranking, and the first one had TCU #7, Baylor #13, and Ohio St #16; they've never had Baylor higher than TCU. TCU's loss looks better than a 14 pt loss to WV and a 14 pt loss at home to VaTech.
                    I don't know why it would be illogical to look at each one-loss team's loss rather than head-to-head. Putting more emphasis on Baylor's head-to-head win over TCU completely ignores the fact that they lost to WVU by 14. Seems like comparing losses is a more logical and fair way to pick a winner than looking only at the head-to-head. If TCU had lost to a team identical to Baylor, but with a different name, there would be no question that they would be ranked ahead of Baylor. TCU has the better resume overall.

                    With that said, there is something a little disgusting about deciding this kind of stuff based on style points and resumes. This isn't figure skating ... the winners should be decided on the field, not by a group of egg-heads with all kinds of political biases. The only fair playoff will be an expanded one with a guaranteed bid for conference champions.

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                    • All-American
                      Right, as Usual
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 15637

                      #1465
                      Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                      LOL @ anyone who thinks CFP controversy will not improve BYU's odds of getting in the B12.

                      Guarantee they are in? Of course not. Improve the odds? Absolutely.
                      And somewhere, SU is filling out a tithing slip.
                      τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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                      • Color Me Badd Fan
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 12519

                        #1466
                        I think the committee may punish the Big 12 for not.submitting a champion. All things considered, that loss at Baylor was crazy. But you can also look at it and say TCU gave up 24 points in less than 12 minutes and Baylor went an a tear against a really good team.

                        The Big 12 should have.sucked it up and presented Baylor as the champ.

                        As for comparisons of Ohio State to Baylor/TCU, Ohio State played one southern team, Va Tech and got its ass kicked. That's something we've seen numerous times from them. If they get in, they'll be playing Alabama who will proceed to throttle them. I can't definitely say the same thing would happen between Alabama and Baylor or TCU.
                        Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                        • YOhio
                          Hipster Mode
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 26165

                          #1467
                          Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post

                          As for comparisons of Ohio State to Baylor/TCU, Ohio State played one southern team, Va Tech and got its ass kicked. That's something we've seen numerous times from them. If they get in, they'll be playing Alabama who will proceed to throttle them. I can't definitely say the same thing would happen between Alabama and Baylor or TCU.
                          You've almost convinced me that Ohio state should get that 4-spot. Always fun to see a prime time meltdown by the Buckeyes.

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                          • Jeff Lebowski
                            Corporate lackey for Jesus
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 69409

                            #1468
                            This is interesting. 46 ESPN experts predict the four teams.



                            26 have Ohio State in
                            12 have TCU in
                            9 have Baylor in
                            45 have FSU in
                            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                            • HuskyFreeNorthwest
                              Time to camp
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 26082

                              #1469
                              Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                              This is interesting. 46 ESPN experts predict the four teams.



                              26 have Ohio State in
                              12 have TCU in
                              9 have Baylor in
                              45 have FSU in
                              So exactly like I said to Surfah last night, nobody was arguing against him on FSU causing him to ram his head into a wall.
                              Get confident, stupid
                              -landpoke

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                              • Jeff Lebowski
                                Corporate lackey for Jesus
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 69409

                                #1470
                                Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
                                So exactly like I said to Surfah last night, nobody was arguing against him on FSU causing him to ram his head into a wall.
                                Sure were a lot of folks claiming it was crazy to think tOSU could get in over TCU.
                                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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