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Looking forward to the Rose Bowl matchup. Should be a fun game to watch. Ducks by 14.
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Well, we wouldn't want to embarrass Michigan in their glorious return, wouldn't we?Originally posted by BoylenOver View Postτὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσινComment
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With a 4-5 conference record, Utah should not be in the Top 40.Originally posted by UtahJazzFan88 View Post"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
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BYU and Utah are both equally (un)deserving of a top-40 ranking.Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post"I don't know the origin of said bitch booming."-Art Vandelay
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For those people who want to know how the BCS works, here's a brief synopsis of the formula.
There are three elements to formula: Harris Poll, USA Today Coaches Poll, and Computer Polls. Each of these is equally weighted - so the human element is 2/3rds of the ranking and the computer element is 1/3.
1. Harris Poll.
In the Harris Poll, voters will rank teams 1-25, and teams will receive the reverse number of points (i.e., if you are ranked 1, you get 25 points, if you are ranked 2, you get 24 points, etc.) for each ballot. There are a maximum of 2875 points you can get (115 voters - a list of which is released by Harris Interactive each year, and is comprised of former players, administrators, etc.). To get this Harris element for the BCS, you take the number of points received by any given team and then divide it by the maximum points. For example, Alabama got 2723 points in the Harris this week - divide by 2875 (the max score) to get .9471, their Harris BCS Score. It's a simple percentage - they got 94.71% of the possible points in Harris.
2. USA Today Coaches Poll.
Coaches poll works the exact same way, only with 59 coaches doing the voting. The max points is 1475. Alabama got 1399 points this week, so 1399/1475=.9485, which is Alabama's Coaches BCS Score.
3. Computers.
The computer rankings are done in much the same way. There are six computer rankings used - Anderson & Hester, Billingsley, Sagarin, Colley Matrix, Massey & Wolfe. These formulas are not published for reasons that should be obvious. For each team, the highest and the lowest ranking are dropped. Then, reverse points are added for each rank (25 points for a #1 ranking, etc.). This means that the max points is 100 (25x4). Bama was ranked 3rd in 4 of the polls but 2nd in two, so, to get their score, you drop the bottom poll (one of the 3rds) and the top poll (one of the 2nds) and you get three 3rd rankings and one 2nd ranking. Convert this to points (23+23+23+24) and you get 93 total points. Divide by 100 and you get a Computer BCS Score of .930.
To get the Total BCS Score, you add all three together (.930+.9485+.9471) and divide by 3. That's .9419 (rounded) for Bama. Simply put, Bama got .9419 of the available points. A perfect score is thus 1.0, which is what LSU got.
Even if you like this concept as opposed to a playoff (which I absolutely do not) have a number of problems with this system, the two biggest of which are (a) you have coaches - who have a vested interest in the outcome of the BCS - voting as an element of the BCS and (b) the computer formulas are not released. I understand the latter - nobody is going to release their proprietary formula, so unless you are going to create one or six from scratch and make them public (a good idea, IMO), you're going to have to trust the computer formula makers. Certainly Sagarin is well respected.
I cannot understand the former issue though. How this makes sense in anybody's world is beyond me.Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.Comment
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Every previously proposed playoff relies on computers and/or voting. The only ways to eliminate both computers and voting would be to (A) have 4 or 8 or 16 conferences; or, (B) have byes assigned to certain conferences by fiat. Personally, I prefer the four conference model.Originally posted by nikuman View PostComment
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It's not like this is important to anyone, but why does UCLA get a bowl invite with a 6-7 record? Does the championsip game not count towards bowl eligibility? Stupid.Last edited by Flystripper; 12-05-2011, 07:35 AM.Dyslexics are teople poo...Comment
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Actually the best way to do it would be to have 13 9 team conferences (3 indy) and the winner of those conferences along with the 3 wild cards play in a 16 team tournament. It could never happen due to confernence championship games and conference tv right and such but it would be the fairest.Originally posted by Ute View Post"Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum
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Yeah. I don't get it either. Hawaii doesn't get one with their 6-7 record.Originally posted by Flystripper View Post"Nobody listens to Turtle."-TurtlesigpicComment
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My preference would be an 8 teamOriginally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
playoff (six BCS conf champions + two wild cards). Use something similar to the current BCS system for seeding and the wild card, except don't let the coaches vote and use transparent computer formulas.Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.Comment
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Why did Hawaii get to play 13 games?Originally posted by Surfah View PostAwesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.Comment
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They get an extra home game due to the traveling (i believe)Originally posted by nikuman View PostI'm your huckleberry.
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yeah and if you play at Hawaii you are allowed to play 13 games too unless you are USC and the NCAA wants to prevent you from playing 13 like Alabama did when they were on probation.Originally posted by FN Phat View Post
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jun...aii18-20100618
On a side note, I guess BYU couldn't find a 13th opponent for this year? Since we played in Hawaii, we could have had another game if we could have found anyone else to play. Indy is super awesome BTW.Dyslexics are teople poo...Comment
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The only reason UCLA got a waiver was because of USC.Originally posted by Flystripper View Post
Had USC not been on suspension, UCLA would have finished the season 6-6. Bowl eligible.
USC not being allowed to play in the PAC11 championship game in essence forced another loss on UCLA.
That is where the waiver stems from.Comment
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