BYU Football - A slow death

[myboynoah]

Again, it doesn't mean they think Utah and BYU are the same school. I might confuse whether a player went to Stanford or Cal. It doesn't mean I thought they were the same thing.

Maybe, but it shows that even well-read and well-educated folks from outside the Intermountain West can easily mistake Utah for BYU. That's what happens. Utah does something notable and these people, not really paying attention, automatically see BYU. This must be some function of the brain. BYU has for so long been viewed as a traditional football power from out West that peoples' brains start to fill in the blanks for them. This probably happened a lot early on with BSU (easy to see that), but Boise has established its own brand so well that I doubt we see much of that anymore.

The brain is an amazing organ.

[Hot Lunch]

Maybe, but it shows that even well-read and well-educated folks from outside the Intermountain West can easily mistake Utah for BYU. That's what happens. Utah does something notable and these people, not really paying attention, automatically see BYU. This must be some function of the brain. BYU has for so long been viewed as a traditional football power from out West that peoples' brains start to fill in the blanks for them. This probably happened a lot early on with BSU (easy to see that), but Boise has established its own brand so well that I doubt we see much of that anymore.

The brain is an amazing organ.

Traditional football powers do not come out of the WAC or the MWC.

[il Padrino Ute]

That doesn't mean they confuse or conflate the two schools.

Again, it doesn't mean they think Utah and BYU are the same school. I might confuse whether a player went to Stanford or Cal. It doesn't mean I thought they were the same thing.

The count is 0-2 SU. Better protect the plate.

[myboynoah]

Traditional football powers do not come out of the WAC or the MWC.

They said that about National Championships and Heisman Trophy winners, but they were wrong.

[MartyFunkhouser]

You know, if the BCS drops AQ status for conferences, that could be a good thing for BYU. The stigma of being non-AQ wouldn't exist, because no one would be AQ.

On the flip side, BYU could go 11-1, get an invite to the Fiesta Bowl, and screw it up because of its demands for replay rights on BYUTV.

[LA Ute]

Maybe, but it shows that even well-read and well-educated folks from outside the Intermountain West can easily mistake Utah for BYU. That's what happens. Utah does something notable and these people, not really paying attention, automatically see BYU. This must be some function of the brain. BYU has for so long been viewed as a traditional football power from out West that peoples' brains start to fill in the blanks for them. This probably happened a lot early on with BSU (easy to see that), but Boise has established its own brand so well that I doubt we see much of that anymore.

The brain is an amazing organ.

Your behavior here can be very unlovely when it comes to the rivalry.

[myboynoah]

Your behavior here can be very unlovely when it comes to the rivalry.

It's just a theory based on my anecdotal observations. I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

But how do you think I feel, having Utah mistaken for BYU so often? Ugh. I know, I know, it's somewhat flattering, but I'm very quick to point out the difference. Most people don't seem to care. So much confusion and so little time.

[mUUser]

When people hear BYU, they think of Mormons. When people hear Utah, they think of Mormons.

Agreed, to most, Utahr is just one huge mormon melting pot. Distinctions are irrelevant. But, having recently visited all three, I was pleasantly surprised at the uniqueness of each school & area....provides a nice variety of choices.

Rumble in the Rockies

Yes.....many memories over the years of this nasty rivalry.

[Mormon Red Death]

It is, and frankly we are all more than a little tired of you, Big Micking our mojo*.




* It make me sad to realize 75% of the board is too young to get the reference, without the assistance of google.

When I was a sophmore is high school we had a slam ball team named "Alpine Sexual Chocolate"

[RC Vikings]

Exactly.
To my knowledge, BYU has played in exactly one semi-big bowl (1996), and had two basketball runs, 30 years apart, that were headline news. Otherwise, we usually beat bad teams, play competitive against similar competition, and generally lose to better teams. We are no more or less relevant than we were a decade ago, and likely will be about the same a decade from now. We are who we are, why is that so hard for most to accept?

Also exactly. BYU is a private, religious based university with high academic standards located in the intermountain west with a limited pool of talent to draw from. Someday Mormons everywhere will come to learn that the success they have had is an even bigger miracle than the seagulls eating all the crickets.

[lambdacoug]

Being an outsider, does this mean outsiders should view Utah as the Mormon school, with banner waving high?

When does BYU intend to close its athletic doors?

They do. Anything to do with Utah is synonymous with mormon to an outsider.

[Hot Lunch]

They said that about National Championships and Heisman Trophy winners, but they were wrong.

BYU was named National Champion by the writers by beating up on cupcakes. Ty Detmer was awarded the Heisman Trophy by shredding a bunch of cupcake defenses. BYU is not a traditional football power.

[lambdacoug]

BYU was named National Champion by the writers by beating up on cupcakes. Ty Detmer was awarded the Heisman Trophy by shredding a bunch of cupcake defenses. BYU is not a traditional football power.

Against the same competition that Utah sucked against during the same period. I seriously do not understand Utes that bag on BYU competition over the last 30-40 years, it is the same competition the Utes faced and sucked donkey balls against. The difference is that Utah's timing for their perfect seasons was better than BYUs. Well, that and you apparently have an admin that gives a flying f* about sports and good competition.

[Hot Lunch]

Against the same competition that Utah sucked against during the same period. I seriously do not understand Utes that bag on BYU competition over the last 30-40 years, it is the same competition between the Utes faced and sucked donkey balls against. The difference is that Utah's timing for their perfect seasons was better than BYUs. Well, that and you apparently have an admin that gives a flying f* about sports and good competition.

Utah got hot at the right time against the Cupcakes. I will be the first to admit it. I just find it comical when people claim BYU is a traditional football power when they beat up on cupcakes during the Lavell era and only during the Lavell era. Utah was a bad program until Ron McBride was hired. No debating that.

[lambdacoug]

Utah got hot at the right time against the Cupcakes. I will be the first to admit it. I just find it comical when people claim BYU is a traditional football power when they beat up on cupcakes during the Lavell era and only during the Lavell era. Utah was a bad program until Ron McBride was hired. No debating that.

Except for the Crowton years, BYU has been above average. The difference over the last few years is that you have had coaches that can get the best execution out of your players for every game, and have been able to complete two perfect seasons. With Bronco, we always settle for almost. We've had 4 almost great seasons in the last 6, but I think Bronco has hit his ceiling and will never coach an undefeated team. The last 2 years (with almost all Bronco recruits) are about all I hope for anymore with Donko at the helm.