Penn State pedophilia

[SeattleUte]

The NCAA is a member institution. If you want to be a member, you agree to abide by its rules and its jurisdiction. The NCAA is not bound by precedent. It can do whatever it wants to do.

Penn State was free to reject the punishment offered up by the NCAA, but it would risk (and likely lose) its membership in doing so.

It could go to court and seek relief; maybe there's an arbitration clause. The NCAA can't do whatever it wants. But again, there's a community of interest here.

[TripletDaddy]

This weeks upcoming SI cover

[SoCalCoug]

Bilas and Mussburger were calling themselves victims?

The NCAA didn't come down harder because they didn't want to hurt people that are around the football program but didn't participate in the coverup. Specifically they named the fans, businesses around PSU, etc. I find that explanation unconvincing. It's like building a plantation off of slave labor and, when slavery is outlawed, pretending like you didn't get rich off of the slave labor in the first place. And then arguing that because your plantation provides many great anciliiary things that you can't just divide it up and give parts of it to those that helped build it without recompense.

They didn't come down harder because they gave Penn State an option: sign off on these sanctions, or fight a 4-year ban on football in the courts. A very shrewd move by the NCAA in this case. That's why Penn State signed the consent decree. And the NCAA was able to set a precedent in a situation where their authority to issue the sanctions was far from settled.

[DrumNFeather]

Joint Statement from *some* of the players:

“This program was not built by one man and this program is sure as hell not going to get torn down by one man,” Mauti said. "... No sanction, no politician can ever take away what we've got here. None of that is ever going to tear us apart. ... This is what Penn State's all about -- fighting though adversity. And we're going to show up every Saturday and we're going to raise hell."

Actually fellas, it was.

[lambdacoug]

Joint Statement from *some* of the players:



Actually fellas, it was.

It'd be really cool to hear a player say something like "Our adversity is nothing compared to that which the victims of Sandusky, et al. must deal with everyday."

[Moliere]

It'd be really cool to hear a player say something like "Our adversity is nothing compared to that which the victims of Sandusky, et al. must deal with everyday."

Or they could at least credit Obama for building PSU football....

[TripletDaddy]

PSU BOT meeting to determine legitimacy of NCAA sanctions. This will probably end well!

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoot...nctions-072512

[SeattleUte]

PSU BOT meeting to determine legitimacy of NCAA sanctions. This will probably end well!

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoot...nctions-072512

Per your assessments they should be delighted they got off so easy.

[SteelBlue]

Anyone hear Bill O'Brien's interviews today? He's saying that some of his kids have up to 50 offers to go elsewhere. Even though a school who wants to recruit a PSU kid only has to notifiy PSU's AD, O'Brien is asking that coaches contact him too, as a courtesy. Mainly he said he needed to speak out to all the other coaches and say that his players don't want to go anywhere else and please don't recruit them because it's putting too much pressure on them.

First of all, he shouldn't be allowed to make a statement like that, imo. These unconditional transfers are sanctioned and his speaking like this could actually work to pressure PSU players to stay. Secondly, I learned that any PSU player wanting to transfer also has to make that wish known to the school, and absolutely no pressure to stay is to be applied from PSU. Who is monitoring these issues? Because based on the interviews I heard and read today, I'm guessing there is a ton of PSU pressure being placed on kids to stay.

[TripletDaddy]

Per your assessments they should be delighted they got off so easy.

They really should. If they choose to fight the legitimacy of the sanctions, the NCAA is free to slap them with the Death Penalty, which punishment is well-established to be within the purview of the NCAA. Also, the media will have a field day on the screwed up priorities at PSU.

Like I said, this should end really well.

[TripletDaddy]

Anyone hear Bill O'Brien's interviews today? He's saying that some of his kids have up to 50 offers to go elsewhere. Even though a school who wants to recruit a PSU kid only has to notifiy PSU's AD, O'Brien is asking that coaches contact him too, as a courtesy. Mainly he said he needed to speak out to all the other coaches and say that his players don't want to go anywhere else and please don't recruit them because it's putting too much pressure on them.

First of all, he shouldn't be allowed to make a statement like that, imo. These unconditional transfers are sanctioned and his speaking like this could actually work to pressure PSU players to stay. Secondly, I learned that any PSU player wanting to transfer also has to make that wish known to the school, and absolutely no pressure to stay is to be applied from PSU. Who is monitoring these issues? Because based on the interviews I heard and read today, I'm guessing there is a ton of PSU pressure being placed on kids to stay.

Today Michael Mauti and Michael Zordich (PSU players...and seniors) held a press conference flanked by around 25 of their teammates. They announced their intention to stay, to "see this thing through," and to show "honor." Yeah, I'd say there is pressure right now within the group to not be the first one to crack.

Noticeably absent from the press conference was Silas Redd.

The pressure to stay will eventually dissipate as reality kicks in. These kids can transfer at any time over the next 4 years. From a practical standpoint, it is too late to transfer today because camp starts in 2 weeks and depth charts are mostly set. I think you will see much more movement starting in early 2013, once the 2012 season is over, especially if PSU has a lousy February LOI Day. The kids can take 5 visits, they can enjoy the recruiting process all over again.

Most of the seniors, if not all of them, will stay. Where are they going to go? Each NCAA team might have ONE guy, maybe two, that could leave, head to another school with a different playbook and a different scheme, and start immediately and be an impact player over everyone else on the depth chart. How many players does PSU have that can do that? besides, the only impact for PSU this season will be the bowl game. They will be on TV as scheduled so Seniors can still make it to the NFL without much trouble. Frankly, it doesn't make a lot of sense for a Senior to transfer this season. Today's press conference was a dog and pony more than a show of strength. The real test is keeping the Juniors and underclassmen.

[SteelBlue]

The pressure to stay will eventually dissipate as reality kicks in. These kids can transfer at any time over the next 4 years.

Ah, I didn't realize the option to leave lasted for 4 years. That makes more sense.

[OrangeUte]

In follow up to steelblue's post, Illinois looking pathetic in the PSU parking lot.

[ame="http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=bigten&id=53996"]NCAAF Opposing coaches staking out PSU players - ESPN[/ame]

[TripletDaddy]

Ha, wow that is pathetic. Have a little self respect.

Illinois? I don't think many players will be transferring to Illinois given that they will probably win as many national championships, conference championships, and go to as many bowl games as Penn State over the next few years.

[San Juan Sun]

I never felt strongly one way or another about the death penalty, but can someone explain to me how PSU was able to negotiate down from 4 years of no football to the, by comparison, moderate sanctions they ended up with?

Wow, the majority of university presidents favored 4 years of no football. Penn State is very, very lucky to be playing football. And I'm kind of sickened that the NCAA backed down as much as they did.

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/...-death-penalty