The Pac-12 participation thread.

[venkman]

This thread is hilarious. Way to dismiss your 2004 and 2008 teams, ute fans. Good grief. Look, those teams would have competed just fine in the Pac-12. You're problem isn't lack of depth or the fact that you still have some MWC seniors, it's the fact that you don't have an effing QB!

[cougjunkie]

Don't forget TCU sucking and getting worse.

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Tcu was pretty good with Pachall before his drug problems. Including ranked last year before he was suspended.

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[Jeff Lebowski]

They've forgotten where they came from and how they too, used to kick against the pricks.

Fascinating to watch. I remember the second Utah got the PAC-12 invite, SU started arguing that we should never abandon the BCS for a playoff system.

The funny thing is the circular logic.

"We should never allow non-AQ teams to be part of the system."
"Why not?"
"Because they can't compete at this level."
"Why not?"
"Because they aren't part of the system."

[The_Douger]

I don't even think TCU is relevant to the comparison given how many guys got kicked out of their program for the drug scandal. Didn't they lose like 12 guys or something like that? Is my number high?

[The_Douger]

Fascinating to watch. I remember the second Utah got the PAC-12 invite, SU started arguing that we should never abandon the BCS for a playoff system.

The really fun thing is the circular logic.

"We should never allow non-AQ teams to be part of the system."
"Why not?"
"Because they can't compete at this level."
"Why not?"
"Because they aren't part of the system."

The thing we always need to remember is SU doesn't know anything about sports, so watching him talk about them is entertaining in and of itself.

[Uncle Ted]

Tcu was pretty good with Pachall before his drug problems. Including ranked last year before he was suspended.

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When did Pachall not have his drug problems?

Edit: Come to think of it I think he played better when he was on drugs.

[SeattleUte]

I think BYU would have more wins than Utah. You have scoreboard, but don't go crazy. That was kind of the point of my post too. Utah should be doing better than they are.

Is all the propaganda about how tough the Pac 12 is seeping in to coaches and players minds? Perhaps the whole program would be better off if you all talked about winning before a game rather than the reason why it's okay to lose.

You guys lack reflection.

[Uncle Ted]

I don't even think TCU is relevant to the comparison given how many guys got kicked out of their program for the drug scandal. Didn't they lose like 12 guys or something like that? Is my number high?

It was only about four football players. I think around 18 students total.

[The_Douger]

It was only about four football players. I think around 18 students total.

Ah, thanks. I must have confused the total number with all being football players.

[Jeff Lebowski]

You guys lack reflection.

Hey SU. Sorry to hear that that amazing Sugar Bowl win was a total fluke.

[YOhio]

Hey SU. Sorry to hear that that amazing Sugar Bowl win was a total fluke.

It was. Trust me. I was there.

[SeattleUte]

Hey SU. Sorry to hear that that amazing Sugar Bowl win was a total fluke.

You know, we've done the mid-major 13-0 record BCS bowl champions get up for the big Sugar bowl game beat Alabama in the Sugar and lay claim to the theoretical NC thing. I'm glad we did it, it was a lot of fun, and it helped get us to where we are now. But it is what it is, and I'm glad we moved on and wouldn't change anything. I'm more than satsified with the past 15 years.

[Uncle Ted]

Two teams with a 2-3 year stretch of mediocrity. Imagine that. Two teams!

Wait a minute. Boise State has fallen off as well. They aren't in an AQ conference. How can this be?

What about West Virginia? They were good when they were playing in the Big East and their fans were burning couches all the time. I don't know if they have had a decent couch burning party this year.

[Vic Vega]

You guys lack reflection.

You guys lose to Colorado. And then have the audacity to say it's alright --- no, it's a point of pride--- afterwards.

[cougjunkie]

It was only about four football players. I think around 18 students total.

2012 might be a top 5 TCU of all time. I mean 7-6 isn't great (although better than Utah at least they made a bowl game).

One point loss to michigan st is as good as a win.

Ot loss to texas tech another win

One td loss to oklahoma, W!



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