The Pac-12 participation thread.

[Donuthole]

We have a well used P12 hoops thread, just sayin.

CC's post was properly placed, as that article calls into question Utah's participation in the PAC-12, at least for basketball.

[Vic Vega]

It's an interesting time to join the PAC12. USC is in the middle of some turmoil. Oregon looks to be heading for some rough waters. Stanford has a new coach and doesn't have a history of staying power.

It would *appear* that the U. might begin participation at a pretty opportune time.

OTOH, UW seems to be making progress, USC will never go away, Oregon has the deep pockets to recover quickly...

I think the Utes have the people in place to be a serious challenger for PAC12 championships right now, but I think the U. is at least a year away.

This is the 2nd post on this thread. If I try to put myself back a couple of years ago, this looks like a fair assessment. Stanford kept it going and USC has kept sucking for now, but the overall situation is exactly the same as it was expected to be.

Now, it looks like a good idea to shoot for becoming a middle of the Pac team as a 1st order of business. (Expect no apology for the pun.) The team that beat BYU and Stanford, and played ASU tough seems like they should already be there, but they are not winning enough. What's the deal? I think Utah is already too good to be a bottom tier team in their conference.

If Utah is not bowl eligible again, KW does not deserve to get canned or even have a hot seat, but is that enough to make his seat warm if next season is also bad? As a casual observer, it looks like they are only better QB play away from being able to join the 2nd tier teams. Is there more going on than that?

There is a real danger of losing all the momentum built up over the last decade if Utah sucks for the next 2-3 years. This also seems like a terrible time for Utah to have dropped the BYU game.

[Omaha 680]

There is a real danger of losing all the momentum built up over the last decade if Utah sucks for the next 2-3 years. This also seems like a terrible time for Utah to have dropped the BYU game.

It's not Utah's fault. The PAC12 doesn't let their schools schedule nonconference games after September.

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[kccougar]

If Utah is not bowl eligible again, KW does not deserve to get canned or even have a hot seat, but is that enough to make his seat warm if next season is also bad? As a casual observer, it looks like they are only better QB play away from being able to join the 2nd tier teams. Is there more going on than that?

There is a real danger of losing all the momentum built up over the last decade if Utah sucks for the next 2-3 years. This also seems like a terrible time for Utah to have dropped the BYU game.

Utah is two (or three) good quarterbacks away from keeping pace in the conference. With Wilson down the Utes find themselves in the exact same situation they've been in since Brian Johnson graduated. It's like Groundhog Day.

[cougjunkie]

This is the 2nd post on this thread. If I try to put myself back a couple of years ago, this looks like a fair assessment. Stanford kept it going and USC has kept sucking for now, but the overall situation is exactly the same as it was expected to be.

Now, it looks like a good idea to shoot for becoming a middle of the Pac team as a 1st order of business. (Expect no apology for the pun.) The team that beat BYU and Stanford, and played ASU tough seems like they should already be there, but they are not winning enough. What's the deal? I think Utah is already too good to be a bottom tier team in their conference.

If Utah is not bowl eligible again, KW does not deserve to get canned or even have a hot seat, but is that enough to make his seat warm if next season is also bad? As a casual observer, it looks like they are only better QB play away from being able to join the 2nd tier teams. Is there more going on than that?

There is a real danger of losing all the momentum built up over the last decade if Utah sucks for the next 2-3 years. This also seems like a terrible time for Utah to have dropped the BYU game.

According to Ute fans this is actually a top 5 team of all time. 4-5 with the hardest SOS in the country is remarkable. No I am not kidding multiple fans have said that. They act like injuries only happen to pac12 teams. They seem to forget a healthy travis wilson threw 6 picks in a game.

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[Dwight Schr-ute]

According to Ute fans this is actually a top 5 team of all time. 4-5 with the hardest SOS in the country is remarkable. No I am not kidding multiple fans have said that. They act like injuries only happen to pac12 teams. They seem to forget a healthy travis wilson threw 6 picks in a game.

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Thanks CJ! That first line was the funniest thing I've read all day.


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[cougjunkie]

Thanks CJ! That first line was the funniest thing I've read all day.


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Check out utefans.net for more high comedy then.

http://utefans.net/message.php?id=1569569

Here you go.

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[MartyFunkhouser]

According to Ute fans this is actually a top 5 team of all time. 4-5 with the hardest SOS in the country is remarkable. No I am not kidding multiple fans have said that. They act like injuries only happen to pac12 teams. They seem to forget a healthy travis wilson threw 6 picks in a game.

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It really is sad how much your trolling abilities have decreased over the years. You are the Dale Murphy of trolls.

[cougjunkie]

It really is sad how much your trolling abilities have decreased over the years. You are the Dale Murphy of trolls.

Check the link and then get back to me. Take it up with your own fanbase.

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[Jeff Lebowski]

Check out utefans.net for more high comedy then.

http://utefans.net/message.php?id=1569569

Here you go.

Oh my. That is hilarious.

[MartyFunkhouser]

Check the link and then get back to me. Take it up with your own fanbase.

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Congrats you have found one person who made that claim. I'm glad to here that we can take one persons ridiculous statement and impute it to the entire fanbase. This doesn't help combat an argument that this is Dale Murphy 1990 caliber stuff.

[MarkGrace]

From that thread:

Which shows how tough BCS conferences are, how thin mid-majors are, and why non-BCS teams shouldn't be allowed in the BCS playoff. It just isn't fair to allow a non-BCS team in over a BCS team, when the BCS team has to do so much to be undefeated.

lol!

[cougjunkie]

From that thread:



lol!

Looks like Grace found another one.

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[MarkGrace]

Looks like Grace found another one.

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And the dude's name is Ute2004

[MartyFunkhouser]

Looks like Grace found another one.

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I don't see any claims in that one that Utah is top 5. Congrats though on finding one embarrassing thread. If you were really up to your old form, you could point out how being a top 5 Ute team of all time really isn't that impressive giving our less than impressive pre-McBride history.

Oh and by the way, the non-AQ teams shouldn't be included in a playoff. Well there shouldn't really be a playoff at all, but that is a discussion for another time. Utah and TCU have taught us that the AQ conferences were right about how much difficult things are at the higher levels of competition.