Non-Conference Scheduling rumors

[PaloAltoCougar]

I think he gets a bad rap. He had the talent to be as successful as a John Walsh if Crowton hadn't gone all circus with the QB position starting in 2002.

Also, your least favorite ever? Have you been watching the last two years?

Engemann had way more talent than Riley, but seemed to lack any heart, something which I grant Riley had (often to our detriment). Engemann infuriated me when, on a pick six, he simply watched the guy run it into the end zone without even trying to appear like he wanted to stop the guy.

[Donuthole]

That pick didn't infuriate me nearly as much as his effort to tackle the guy who intercepted the pick. That was a hell of a comeback though. CB's coming out party.

I don't remember his effort on that play. I'll have to go back and watch. I do remember his effort (or lack thereof) on the pick 6 vs. UNLV.

[Goatnapper'96]

I think he gets a bad rap. He had the talent to be as successful as a John Walsh if Crowton hadn't gone all circus with the QB position starting in 2002.

Also, your least favorite ever? Have you been watching the last two years?

As a HC Gary Crowton was the personification of being a hemophiliac.

[byu71]

As a HC Gary Crowton was the personification of being a hemophiliac.

Crowton gets a bum wrap. If the admin. had let him bring in his own staff, things would have been different.

Also if they hadn't forced him to save money by flying in same day to the Nevada game, they could have won the game and the downhill slide wouldn't have started.

[Goatnapper'96]

Crowton gets a bum wrap. If the admin. had let him bring in his own staff, things would have been different.

Also if they hadn't forced him to save money by flying in same day to the Nevada game, they could have won the game and the downhill slide wouldn't have started.

He may get a bum wrap and he might not have brought his own staff, but he still was a hemophiliac. Which coach that he was forced to keep from the Lavell staff recommended to not bring a punter to Colorado Springs in 2002?

It is entirely possible that BYU's admin is as inept and meddlesome as you indicate and Coach Crowton was still a very poor HC.

I still think I would have preferred Crowton as an OC to Anae though.

[Indy Coug]

Which coach that he was forced to keep from the Lavell staff recommended to not bring a punter to Colorado Springs in 2002?

Refresh my memory.

http://cougarstats.com/games.php?sho...ls&game_id=120

[Green Monstah]

Engemann had talent, but he didn't have much else.

He had a cute sister.

[The_Douger]

I think he gets a bad rap. He had the talent to be as successful as a John Walsh if Crowton hadn't gone all circus with the QB position starting in 2002.

Also, your least favorite ever? Have you been watching the last two years?

I just can't be too critical of Riley for what happened. I blame the coaches more than I blame Riley, and Riley is right up there for me too. I hated how he played the position, and if I was the coach he'd have never been the QB, but Engemann had all the talent in the world and a 5 cent noggin running it.

There's no reason Engemann shouldn't have been a dominant player at BYU.

[Jeff Lebowski]

He may get a bum wrap and he might not have brought his own staff, but he still was a hemophiliac. Which coach that he was forced to keep from the Lavell staff recommended to not bring a punter to Colorado Springs in 2002?

It is entirely possible that BYU's admin is as inept and meddlesome as you indicate and Coach Crowton was still a very poor HC.

I still think I would have preferred Crowton as an OC to Anae though.

Don't you get byu71's thesis yet? Every BYU coach ever was damn near perfect. Any and all faults they have can be laid at the feet of the BYU administration.

[lambdacoug]

Crowton gets a *bum wrap*. If the admin. had let him bring in his own staff, things would have been different.

Also if they hadn't forced him to save money by flying in same day to the Nevada game, they could have won the game and the downhill slide wouldn't have started.

[byu71]

Don't you get byu71's thesis yet? Every BYU coach ever was damn near perfect. Any and all faults they have can be laid at the feet of the BYU administration.

He didn't bite, I got worried you wouldn't either.

[falafel]

Don't worry, BYU71 is only using that phrase in homage to Engemann's .... whatever she is.

Whoa. She forgot to put on her G's.

She also coined a new malapropism for CUF:

"I'm tired of taking the wrap for things. I did not have an affair with Larry," she said.

Funny what money and fame will do. If Larry was a janitor with those looks, he wouldn't get to first base with these women. Or any woman.

[Goatnapper'96]

Refresh my memory.

http://cougarstats.com/games.php?sho...ls&game_id=120

Hey there Magellan, statistically speaking BYU has not played Colorado State a great deal in Colorado Springs. But they have played the United States Air Force Academy Falcons, or as those of us who went to real service Academy's reference it Uncle Sam's Country Club. This is the game of which I speak:

http://cougarstats.com/games.php?sho...ls&game_id=122

[Indy Coug]

Hey there Magellan, statistically speaking BYU has not played Colorado State a great deal in Colorado Springs. But they have played the United States Air Force Academy Falcons, or as those of us who went to real service Academy's reference it Uncle Sam's Country Club. This is the game of which I speak:

http://cougarstats.com/games.php?sho...ls&game_id=122

Regardless of my mislocations, it appears your talk about eschewing a punter was figurative, not literal. There were 5 turnovers, 4 failed 4th down attempts and 2 punts.

[Goatnapper'96]

Regardless of my mislocations, it appears your talk about eschewing a punter was figurative, not literal. There were 5 turnovers, 4 failed 4th down attempts and 2 punts.

My memory of the game was the ridiculous 4th down failures in locations where it was not orthodox football to go for it on 4th down. My memory of Crowton was he was not very good at figuring out ways to cloture when things were not going well. While I think this contrasts with Mendenhall whose biggest strength, IMO, is to make anything that walks and talks at least average.