Non-Conference Scheduling rumors

[UtahJazzFan88]

Thanks for the clarification. It seemed like every Boise State game was on NBCSN; hence, my assumption that was MWC flagship station. Especially since it was the station formerly known as Versus.

Yeah, CBS Sports sold off ("sublicensed") games to NBCSN & ESPN (which is how BYU @ Boise State was on ESPN) last year, with the new restructured MWC TV deal, CBS Sports Network picks the top 10-15 games (tier 1), and now the MWC is able to sell off tier 2 & tier 3 now instead of CBS Sports doing that. I would assume BYU @ Nevada is a tier 1 game.

[Pelado]

Yeah, CBS Sports sold off ("sublicensed") games to NBCSN & ESPN (which is how BYU @ Boise State was on ESPN) last year, with the new restructured MWC TV deal, CBS Sports Network picks the top 10-15 games (tier 1), and now the MWC is able to sell off tier 2 & tier 3 now instead of CBS Sports doing that. I would assume BYU @ Nevada is a tier 1 game.

I thought CBSSN still had rights to all the MWC games (Tiers 1-3) and was selling them directly to the other networks instead of the games reverting back to the MWC for the conference to sell.

[fbguru]

I thought CBSSN still had rights to all the MWC games (Tiers 1-3) and was selling them directly to the other networks instead of the games reverting back to the MWC for the conference to sell.

This last year, yes. Next year, no.

I think the restructure was done because otherwise there were going to be some attorney fees accumulated by both sides since the MWC had a good argument that the agreement they originally signed to was killed with the Mountain going away. Rather than fight over the way CBS handled the contract the last two years, they restructured going forward.

[UtahJazzFan88]

This last year, yes. Next year, no.

I think the restructure was done because otherwise there were going to be some attorney fees accumulated by both sides since the MWC had a good argument that the agreement they originally signed to was killed with the Mountain going away. Rather than fight over the way CBS handled the contract the last two years, they restructured going forward.

Plus from some of the CBS Sports writers (Dodd I think?) reports last month when the tv deal was restructured, said the tier 2 & 3 rights are worth $24 million for the whole conference/2 million for each school. So their payout for the conference TV might still be pretty paltry, but at least it could be in the 3-4 million range.

[Green Monstah]

http://www.cougarfan.com/article.asp...o-part-of-byu/

The Cougars lost at Nevada at Mackey Stadium in 2002 when then BYU head coach Gary Crowton made the infamous decision to fly his team into Reno the day of the game. The Wolfpack jumped all over the Cougars that day 31-28, and several reports surfaced of Nevada fans behaving in a very boorish manner towards the BYU team and its fans.

Nevada's starting QB was my high school's QB. He didn't care much for me, so I hope I didn't give him any extra motivation to light up the Cougs for 400+ yards.

[Donuthole]

http://www.cougarfan.com/article.asp...o-part-of-byu/



Nevada's starting QB was my high school's QB. He didn't care much for me, so I hope I didn't give him any extra motivation to light up the Cougs for 400+ yards.

IIRC, 90+ of which came on a pass to Nate Burleson at the LOS. Thanks, Chad Barney!

[Indy Coug]

IIRC, 90+ of which came on a pass to Nate Burleson at the LOS. Thanks, Chad Barney!

It was also a game where Marcus Whalen had a 90+ yard TD run called back on a holding penalty on the opposite side of the field. It was also a game where Nevada had 3 or 4 consecutive false starts in the 4th quarter which allowed them to bleed 2 minutes off the clock without even running a play.

http://cougarstats.com/games.php?sho...ls&game_id=125

[wapiti]

It was also a game where Marcus Whalen had a 90+ yard TD run called back on a holding penalty on the opposite side of the field. It was also a game where Nevada had 3 or 4 consecutive false starts in the 4th quarter which allowed them to bleed 2 minutes off the clock without even running a play.

http://cougarstats.com/games.php?sho...ls&game_id=125

Has that rule changed? If not, I don't know why teams don't do that more often.

[Indy Coug]

Has that rule changed? If not, I don't know why teams don't do that more often.

I'm still not sure what the clock rules are for this situation, but I do remember losing my mind back in 2002 when I saw them keep restarting the clock after marching off the 5 yards each time.

[YOhio]

It was also a game where Marcus Whalen had a 90+ yard TD run called back on a holding penalty on the opposite side of the field. It was also a game where Nevada had 3 or 4 consecutive false starts in the 4th quarter which allowed them to bleed 2 minutes off the clock without even running a play.

http://cougarstats.com/games.php?sho...ls&game_id=125

And Bret Engemman threw a pick 6 to close out the first half, which resulted in a benching in favor of Lance Pendleton. What a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad game.

[Indy Coug]

And Bret Engemman threw a pick 6 to close out the first half, which resulted in a benching in favor of Lance Pendleton. What a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad game.

Engemann learned his lesson -- until he threw a Hail Mary pick-6 at the end of the 1st half against Utah State two weeks later.

[Surfah]

Engemann learned his lesson -- until he threw a Hail Mary pick-6 at the end of the 1st half against Utah State two weeks later.

That pick didn't infuriate me nearly as much as his effort to tackle the guy who intercepted the pick. That was a hell of a comeback though. CB's coming out party.

[The_Douger]

Bret Engemann might be my least favorite BYU QB ever.

[Omaha 680]

Bret Engemann might be my least favorite BYU QB ever.

I think he gets a bad rap. He had the talent to be as successful as a John Walsh if Crowton hadn't gone all circus with the QB position starting in 2002.

Also, your least favorite ever? Have you been watching the last two years?

[Indy Coug]

I think he gets a bad rap. He had the talent to be as successful as a John Walsh if Crowton hadn't gone all circus with the QB position starting in 2002.

Also, your least favorite ever? Have you been watching the last two years?

Engemann had talent, but he didn't have much else.