Dear Tom Holmoe

[Moliere]

I'll just take this opportunity to point out that it was I who came up with the term "cookiegate." I never get any credit for that.

Putting "-gate" on the end of anything is about as lame as it gets.

[cougjunkie]

I have never in my history of message boards seen one poster get owned as much as Seattleute has in this thread. Seriously this is hilarious to watch, Seattleute might as well get his balls out of Gwendolyns purse and give them to PAC.

[SeattleUte]

I always knew that PAC was a sacred cow here. I never knew Holmoe was so much one. I'm sure if I came here with pictures of the two of them in an incriminating situation everyone would scream and yell that I just got owned by them.

[CJF]

I always knew that PAC was a sacred cow here. I never knew Holmoe was so much one. I'm sure if I came here with pictures of the two of them in an incriminating situation everyone would scream and yell that I just got owned by them.

How else would you have gotten the pictures?

[Katy Lied]

What the hell is hamburgergate? It was cookiegate.

And you call yourself a fan?

There was a cookiegate and a hamburgergate. Cookiegate with the entire team, and hamburgergate with the kid who lost his parent. Horn or something.

For what it's worth, I think Hill is high on integrity and a little lower on competance. I think Holmoe is high on competance and a little lower on integrity.

[creekster]

There was a cookiegate and a hamburgergate. Cookiegate with the entire team, and hamburgergate with the kid who lost his parent. Horn or something.

For what it's worth, I think Hill is high on integrity and a little lower on competance. I think Holmoe is high on competance and a little lower on integrity.

Really? On what basis do you 'think' those relative comparisons?

As PAC has said, all the Cal fans I know (and I know a few rabid hard core fans) think very highly of Holmoe's personal integrity, but just not so highly of his ability to coach or run a football program.

[LA Ute]

Whoa, LA. No need to resort to such mean insults. Plus most people here don't believe you came up with it anyways.

I sputter angrily in your general direction.

[byu71]

There was a cookiegate and a hamburgergate. Cookiegate with the entire team, and hamburgergate with the kid who lost his parent. Horn or something.

For what it's worth, I think Hill is high on integrity and a little lower on competance. I think Holmoe is high on competance and a little lower on integrity.

I think the way the system is set up at BYU makes it difficult to have high integrity. You can mislead people all you want and not worry about it, after all God is directing you. A lighter version of it being OK to cut of someone's head. You know better than, than all BYU students and alum dwindle in disbelief.

[Indy Coug]

Practice-gate was a lot bigger deal than cookie-gate or hamburger-gate.

[SeattleUte]

There was a cookiegate and a hamburgergate. Cookiegate with the entire team, and hamburgergate with the kid who lost his parent. Horn or something.

For what it's worth, I think Hill is high on integrity and a little lower on competance. I think Holmoe is high on competance and a little lower on integrity.

Yeah right. Meanwhile Holmoe is sputtering gobbledygook about "other opportunies" due to newly broken "commitments" to dissemble his way out of taking any responsibility for the current expansion disaster. Not sure what Holmoe has done other than hire the only coaches available to him and had a historicaly disastrous and disgraceful tenure as a coach at Cal. Maybe you can enlighten me.

[byu71]

Yeah right. Meanwhile Holmoe is sputtering gobbledygook about "other opportunies" due to newly broken "commitments" to dissemble his way out of taking any responsibility for the current expansion disaster. Not sure what Holmoe has done other than hire the only coaches available to him and had a historicaly disastrous and disgraceful tenure as a coach at Cal. Maybe you can enlighten me.

You have proven time and time again when it comes to subjects like this, your mind isn't receptive to being enlightened. Therefor one is left to not enlightening, but taking you to the woodshed like PAC does.

[Bengal Cougar]

Yeah right. Meanwhile Holmoe is sputtering gobbledygook about "other opportunies" due to newly broken "commitments" to dissemble his way out of taking any responsibility for the current expansion disaster. Not sure what Holmoe has done other than hire the only coaches available to him and had a historicaly disastrous and disgraceful tenure as a coach at Cal. Maybe you can enlighten me.

BYU's sports programs have done quite well since Holmoe took over, so he's done quite a bit. And Holmoe mentioning other opportunities is actually putting more pressure on himself now since BYU fans will expect some thing to happen since he made those comments. And he said that knowing how BYU fans would take it.

[creekster]

Yeah right. Meanwhile Holmoe is sputtering gobbledygook about "other opportunies" due to newly broken "commitments" to dissemble his way out of taking any responsibility for the current expansion disaster. Not sure what Holmoe has done other than hire the only coaches available to him and had a historicaly disastrous and disgraceful tenure as a coach at Cal. Maybe you can enlighten me.

You just don't learn.

[Blueintheface]

You just don't learn.

In the PAC-10 they don't learn, they teach. I think that's written somewhere in Palo Alto.

[tooblue]

Yeah right. Meanwhile Holmoe is sputtering gobbledygook about "other opportunies" due to newly broken "commitments" to dissemble his way out of taking any responsibility for the current expansion disaster. Not sure what Holmoe has done other than hire the only coaches available to him and had a historicaly disastrous and disgraceful tenure as a coach at Cal. Maybe you can enlighten me.

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