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  • Originally posted by Paperback Writer View Post
    I don't think Mizzou could be so easily replaced in the Big 12. The Tigers have been playing decent football lately and usually have had a strong basketball program. In my view, I don't think any of the remaining Big 12 schools can be easily replaced.

    If it were so easy, the Big 12 would still have 12 teams in it.
    Um...Baylor and Iowa St could be easily replaced. Especially Baylor. Swap em out for TCU and you just made a major upgrade.

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    • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
      Mizzou and OU to the SEC?

      http://twitter.com/#!/sptwri

      sptwri Mike DeArmond
      MU chancellor and Big 12 chairman Brady Deaton sets press conference for 6:45 tonight. And from what I'm hearing it might be interesting.
      2 hours ago
      Just firing Beebe or something wouldn't be that interesting.
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      • Originally posted by creekster View Post
        First the smilies and now this? You are klilling me.


        I have a cast-iron stomach at this point.

        You have to admit that it looks suspicious. Why else would OU be doing a press conference? We already know they are after Mizzou.
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        • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post


          I have a cast-iron stomach at this point.

          You have to admit that it looks suspicious. Why else would OU be doing a press conference? We already know they are after Mizzou.
          Sigh. This just after I was bragtging to my PAC12 cal and stanford partners at lunch about how BYU would be in the B12 by next week. Is there an egg on face smilie?
          PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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          • They just said on PTI that all indications are that the MU presser is to announce that they are STAYING in Big12. Now, what is OU doing?

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            • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
              http://twitter.com/#!/sptwri



              Just firing Beebe or something wouldn't be that interesting.
              I think that might qualify. Maybe he's announcing the new guy as well?

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              • My guess is it's just an update of what happened in the meeting.
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                • Chip Brown

                  The Big 12 presidents were scheduled to meet on a conference call at 5 p.m. CT tonight.

                  There is a lot to talk about, including the imminent resignation of commissioner Dan Beebe and the naming of former Big 8 commissioner Chuck Neinas as Beebe's interim replacement, two high-ranking Big 12 officials told Orangebloods.com.

                  The presidents will also discuss Big 12 expansion and whether to add one school or three schools, sources said.

                  And TCU may be rising up the list of candidates to become No. 10, two key sources said Thursday.

                  While BYU has been the popular thought as a replacement for Texas A&M, a key source close to the situation says BYU may no longer be interested in joining the Big 12 because of the recent instability.

                  While BYU seemed very interested in the possibility of joining the Big 12 a month ago, a key source close to the situation said, that was before all the rancor erupted involving Oklahoma, the Big 12 and OU's attempt to land in the Pac-12.

                  BYU would stand to grow exponentially financially with a move to the Big 12 because the Cougars made less than $2 million in TV revenue last year and would stand to make $18 million in the Big 12 next year.

                  But BYU can draw financially from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and is not hung up on money, the source said.

                  TCU is moving up the list of potential candidates because of its presence in college football under Gary Patterson. The Horned Frogs have announced they will leave the Mountain West for the Big East after this season. But those plans could be on hold, sources said.

                  Expanding outside the current geographic footprint of the Big 12 has always been seen as a priority of the league (it was verbalized by Dan Beebe last year) to draw more television sets. But it appears the TV partners of the Big 12 (ABC/ESPN and Fox) would be comfortable enough with TCU replacing A&M to continue paying out the money in their current contracts with the league, sources said.

                  Texas appears to want to grow only to 10 schools. UT athletic director DeLoss Dodds said Wednesday he favors 10 because the path to a BCS championship is more clear without a league title game. But Dodds said it will obviously be discussed by everyone in the Big 12.

                  The possibility of adding schools like Louisville, West Virginia and Cincinnati will be discussed by Big 12 presidents, sources said. But some wonder if that makes a lot of geographic sense. Others want the Big 12 to grow to 12 immediately to try and solidify the conference with more numbers.

                  Either way, keep an eye on TCU as a rising candidate to join the Big 12.

                  There was some concern early in the day that Missouri might still be entertaining thoughts of joining the Southeastern Conference. But Mizzou chancellor Brady Deaton, as the chair of the Big 12 Board of Directors, has been leading the charge to hold the Big 12 together over the past several days.

                  Sources indicate if the SEC were to make any move involving Missouri that the SEC would face the same kind of legal threat when Texas A&M was about to be added as the 13th member of the SEC.

                  Sources say the SEC had previously indicated it would not get involved with Missouri if would mean the Big 12 would unravel. But that was before Oklahoma caused such an uproar on Sept. 2, when OU president David Boren said no one was more active in looking at its conference options than OU.

                  The three weeks following Boren's comments have included the destabilizing of the Big East with Syracuse and Pitt joining the Atlantic Coast Conference.

                  Boren, a former governor of Oklahoma, has been trying to spin the Sooners' lack of a stand-along invitation to the Pac-12 since Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott announced on Tuesday night that his league would not expand.

                  Boren has ruffled even more feathers tonight by calling a press conference for 6:30 p.m. CT with athletic director Joe Castiglione and Bob Stoops to discuss OU's view of things.

                  That's because a press conference had been called much earlier in the day by Missouri chancellor Brady Deaton for 6:45 p.m. CT.

                  "What is Boren doing upstaging the chairman of the Big 12 Board of Directors?" one Big 12 administrator wondered aloud. "That's just uncalled for."

                  Stay tuned.
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                  • Originally posted by BlueHair View Post
                    My guess is it's just an update of what happened in the meeting.
                    That could be. If Beebe's emptying his desk, he might not be overly concerned about whether the conference office issues a press release regarding his being replaced.
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                    • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                      Chip Brown
                      So what is BYU asking for that Texas doesn't want to give up?

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                      • Originally posted by Jacob View Post
                        Um...Baylor and Iowa St could be easily replaced. Especially Baylor. Swap em out for TCU and you just made a major upgrade.
                        I dunno...Didn't Baylor just get done beating TCU? And TCU already belongs to the Big East and wouldn't be able to switch conference immediately. But I'll admit that swapping Baylor for TCU would be a net plus - albeit a small one once facilities and fan bases are considered.

                        And who would replace Iowa St? My point is that as bad as Iowa St. and Baylor can be, the expansion options for the Big 12 are very limited. That's why 'ol DeLoss likes the number 10 so well. If BYU were not available, his favorite number would be 9.
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                        • Originally posted by DapperDan View Post
                          So what is BYU asking for that Texas doesn't want to give up?
                          Maybe the freedom to move to the Big Ten when the time is right.
                          "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                          "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                          "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                          • I'm going to throw up.

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                            • I hope his source at BYU is full of shit.
                              So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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                              • Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
                                I hope his source at BYU is full of shit.
                                I don't think so. It's what my guy in TX was saying.

                                This is just awful

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