The Big 12 expansion groundswell

[Moliere]

Two actually. But keep digging that grave.

Oregon last year and......

[Top Ute]

You might want to check wins against non-BCS opponents as it might show the PAC is better than the Big 12 there as well. Perhaps Holiday Bowl wins is in your favor as well. What about Friday night games broadcast on Versus?

Is this your attempt to finally provide some kind of factual basis in this argument?

[TripletDaddy]

Oregon last year and......

[Jeff Lebowski]

We call it intellectual dishonesty where I'm from. I particularly enjoy SU's posts where he accuses the Mo'mon church of the same. The irony is far too enjoyable in such instances.

Typical lawyer.

Oh please... We are talking about sports predictions here.

If I were you I would tread lightly while posting on the same day as your broken vow of silence.

[Top Ute]

Oregon last year and......

USC. Twice.

[Moliere]

Say again?

I'm not counting cheaters, only games that still count.

[Surfah]

Say again?

I think he's talking about the two BCS championship games vacated by USC. So they don't officially count. But we all know they still do.

[Viking]

What's that have to do with Pac-10/12 vs. Big 12?

Don't answer. Given your comparison of Utah to Wyoming, it's clear nothing you say should be taken seriously.

You might find this to be an interesting read vis-a-vis Utah and Wyoming:

http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/19/the-geography-of-college-football-fans-and-realignment-chaos/

I emphasize the word "READ". You'll have to do that and some basic table reading/interpretation. I'm sure you're capable given you went to a Pac16 school.

[Uncle Ted]

Big 12 todo list:

(1) Fire Dan Beebe and hire an interim commissioner. (Check...)

The Big 12 is poised to replace commissioner Dan Beebe with former Big Eight commissioner Chuck Neinas, CBSSports.com has learned.

One highly placed source said the conference was moving quickly to replace Beebe who had been under fire from some conference members after recent instability within the league. Neinas, currently a well-known college consultant, is expected to be named interim commissioner.

The official word could come as soon as Thursday when the Big 12 presidents meet by conference call to discuss how to move forward. Based on the news of Wednesday, the embattled league apparently will continue with nine schools while seeking additional members.

The Tulsa World reported Wednesday that the Big 12 had "targeted" Neinas, one of the most respected college figures in the country. Neinas was the assistant executive director of the NCAA from 1961-1971 and Big Eight commissioner from 1971-1980. He currently runs Neinas Sports Services.

[TripletDaddy]

I'm not counting cheaters, only games that still count.

If the games dont count why would you count them as B12 appearances?

[Moliere]

I think he's talking about the two BCS championship games vacated by USC. So they don't officially count. But we all know they still do.

Right......that's why they are called vacated

And Ben Johnson won a gold medal

[Gaffords]

Gaffords, stick around long enough and you'll find plenty of opportunities like this. It's almost as easy as picking apart aggy (though NOTHING is that easy!).

The Utes and their 45,000 seat Texas high school stadium believe that they somehow belong in the Pac16 beyond simple religious discrimination and are the greatest Pac12 shrills known to man.

Actually Aggy is the HARDEST fan base to pick apart. They don't get it.

This is on our boards right now:

aggy starting to see the writing on the wall?? Oh my. This is gonna be great!!

http://texags.com/main/forum.reply.a...131&forum_id=5

WOW.... It is scary that some get it and try to point it out. The other just talk around the rational thinkers. They even want to vote out Baylor. lol They refuse to grasp:

1. SEC requires a signed waiver.
2. BU/KSU/ect. are not signing it. (no need to argue about grounds for lawsuits.)
3. OU staying doesn't mean anyone is signing the waiver
4. the SEC has to lift the waiver to finalize the move.

They refuse to grasp those simple facts..........

There is no rationing with aggy.

[Moliere]

If the games dont count why would you count them as B12 appearances?

Why not? They didn't vacate anything

[Top Ute]

You might find this to be an interesting read vis-a-vis Utah and Wyoming:

http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/19/the-geography-of-college-football-fans-and-realignment-chaos/

I emphasize the word "READ". You'll have to do that and some basic table reading/interpretation. I'm sure you're capable given you went to a Pac16 school.

Evidently, you missed reading the part that said this survey is "highly inaccurate." That's the fine print, by the way.

Talk about shooting fish in a barrel. I've long since won this battle.

[TripletDaddy]

I think he's talking about the two BCS championship games vacated by USC. So they don't officially count. But we all know they still do.

The wins were vacated for SC but the games still took place and of course they count. Texas still won that game. How can they win a game that doesn't count? Oklahoma still lost the Orange Bowl (lol!) and the record books all show who beat them. Unless they lost to nobody, which would not be unthinkable given how they played that night