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How many national championship games has the Pac played in? How many have the Big 12 played in? Anyone can cherry pick stats. This is exercise is pointless.Originally posted by Top Ute View PostAnd even more "shilling"
BCS bowl game records (since 1988)
Mountain West: .750, (3-1)
Southeastern: .714, (15-6)
WAC: .667, (2-1)
Pac-12: .625, (10-6)
Big Ten: .478, (11-12)
Big East: .462, (6-7)
Big 12: .444 (8-10)
Atlantic Coast: .154 (2-11)
Independents: .000 (0-3)
Additionally, the Pac-12 has featured BCS wins by five conference teams (USC, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Stanford), or 50 percent of its membership. The Big 12? Just four (Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas, Nebraska), or 33 percent of its membership."Nobody listens to Turtle."-Turtlesigpic
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sure and byu has a nat championship and you dont. so what?Originally posted by Top Ute View PostAnd even more "shilling"
BCS bowl game records (since 1988)
Mountain West: .750, (3-1)
Southeastern: .714, (15-6)
WAC: .667, (2-1)
Pac-12: .625, (10-6)
Big Ten: .478, (11-12)
Big East: .462, (6-7)
Big 12: .444 (8-10)
Atlantic Coast: .154 (2-11)
Independents: .000 (0-3)
Additionally, the Pac-12 has featured BCS wins by five conference teams (USC, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Stanford), or 50 percent of its membership. The Big 12? Just four (Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas, Nebraska), or 33 percent of its membership.
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7-3, Big 12. But I'm not the run who runs away from evidence contrary to the argument at hand. In fact, I'll gladly provide it. It's obvious Moliere can't.Originally posted by Surfah View PostHow many national championship games has the Pac played in? How many have the Big 12 played in? Anyone can cherry pick stats. This is exercise is pointless.
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Pat.Originally posted by Top Ute View PostTry last year, dumbass.
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You aren't the run that runs away?Originally posted by Top Ute View Post7-3, Big 12. But I'm not the run who runs away from evidence contrary to the argument at hand. In fact, I'll gladly provide it. It's obvious Moliere can't.
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Yeah, I forgot about Stanford. Is the Orange Bowl still a BCS game?Originally posted by Top Ute View PostI'm still waiting for you to provide any evidence. Other than your own insufficient memory and half-baked comparisons of one program within each league.
The PAC has had one, count that ONE, team in the national championship game, and they lost. But I guess I don't find it surprising that a Ute would count any and all BCS wins even if it results in a second place finish.
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To quote our own Lebowski, "Oh brother."Originally posted by Viking View PostGaffords, stick around long enough and you'll find plenty of opportunities like this. It's almost as easy as picking apart aggy (though NOTHING is that easy!).
The Utes and their 45,000 seat Texas high school stadium believe that they somehow belong in the Pac16 beyond simple religious discrimination and are the greatest Pac12 shrills known to man."Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
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You might want to check wins against non-BCS opponents as it might show the PAC is better than the Big 12 there as well. Perhaps Holiday Bowl wins is in your favor as well. What about Friday night games broadcast on Versus?Originally posted by Top Ute View Post7-3, Big 12. But I'm not the run who runs away from evidence contrary to the argument at hand. In fact, I'll gladly provide it. It's obvious Moliere can't."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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Two actually. But keep digging that grave.Originally posted by Moliere View PostYeah, I forgot about Stanford. Is the Orange Bowl still a BCS game?
The PAC has had one, count that ONE, team in the national championship game, and they lost. But I guess I don't find it surprising that a Ute would count any and all BCS wins even if it results in a second place finish.

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Holy small sample sizes. Do you really think there is a statistically significant difference between 8-10 and 10-6? 5 teams versus 4 teams winning BCS games? Really?Originally posted by Top Ute View PostAnd even more "shilling"
BCS bowl game records (since 1988)
Mountain West: .750, (3-1)
Southeastern: .714, (15-6)
WAC: .667, (2-1)
Pac-12: .625, (10-6)
Big Ten: .478, (11-12)
Big East: .462, (6-7)
Big 12: .444 (8-10)
Atlantic Coast: .154 (2-11)
Independents: .000 (0-3)
Additionally, the Pac-12 has featured BCS wins by five conference teams (USC, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Stanford), or 50 percent of its membership. The Big 12? Just four (Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas, Nebraska), or 33 percent of its membership.
The only comparison you could possibly try to put forward from that list that would have any statistical power or validity would be between the SEC and the ACC.
Did you ever take a statistics class?
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