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  • Originally posted by Coach McGuirk View Post
    I'm O U T. Ill wait for some chickens to hatch.
    Prudence thy name is coach.
    PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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    • Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
      It was Last year your memory sucks.

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      • Originally posted by Top Ute View Post
        And even more "shilling"

        BCS bowl game records (since 1988)
        Mountain West: .750, (3-1)
        Southeastern: .714, (15-6)
        WAC: .667, (2-1)
        Pac-12: .625, (10-6)
        Big Ten: .478, (11-12)
        Big East: .462, (6-7)
        Big 12: .444 (8-10)
        Atlantic Coast: .154 (2-11)
        Independents: .000 (0-3)

        Additionally, the Pac-12 has featured BCS wins by five conference teams (USC, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Stanford), or 50 percent of its membership. The Big 12? Just four (Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas, Nebraska), or 33 percent of its membership.
        How many national championship games has the Pac played in? How many have the Big 12 played in? Anyone can cherry pick stats. This is exercise is pointless.
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        • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
          Lol again. I forgot you suck at stats. Got any other cherry picked evidence?
          I'm still waiting for you to provide any evidence. Other than your own insufficient memory and half-baked comparisons of one program within each league.

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          • Originally posted by Top Ute View Post
            And even more "shilling"

            BCS bowl game records (since 1988)
            Mountain West: .750, (3-1)
            Southeastern: .714, (15-6)
            WAC: .667, (2-1)
            Pac-12: .625, (10-6)
            Big Ten: .478, (11-12)
            Big East: .462, (6-7)
            Big 12: .444 (8-10)
            Atlantic Coast: .154 (2-11)
            Independents: .000 (0-3)

            Additionally, the Pac-12 has featured BCS wins by five conference teams (USC, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Stanford), or 50 percent of its membership. The Big 12? Just four (Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas, Nebraska), or 33 percent of its membership.
            sure and byu has a nat championship and you dont. so what?

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            • Originally posted by Surfah View Post
              How many national championship games has the Pac played in? How many have the Big 12 played in? Anyone can cherry pick stats. This is exercise is pointless.
              7-3, Big 12. But I'm not the run who runs away from evidence contrary to the argument at hand. In fact, I'll gladly provide it. It's obvious Moliere can't.

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              • Originally posted by Top Ute View Post
                Try last year, dumbass.
                Pat.
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                • Originally posted by Top Ute View Post
                  7-3, Big 12. But I'm not the run who runs away from evidence contrary to the argument at hand. In fact, I'll gladly provide it. It's obvious Moliere can't.
                  You aren't the run that runs away?

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                  • Originally posted by Top Ute View Post
                    I'm still waiting for you to provide any evidence. Other than your own insufficient memory and half-baked comparisons of one program within each league.
                    Yeah, I forgot about Stanford. Is the Orange Bowl still a BCS game?

                    The PAC has had one, count that ONE, team in the national championship game, and they lost. But I guess I don't find it surprising that a Ute would count any and all BCS wins even if it results in a second place finish.

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                    • Originally posted by Viking View Post
                      Gaffords, stick around long enough and you'll find plenty of opportunities like this. It's almost as easy as picking apart aggy (though NOTHING is that easy!).

                      The Utes and their 45,000 seat Texas high school stadium believe that they somehow belong in the Pac16 beyond simple religious discrimination and are the greatest Pac12 shrills known to man.
                      To quote our own Lebowski, "Oh brother."
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                      • Originally posted by Viking View Post
                        sure and byu has a nat championship and you dont. so what?
                        What's that have to do with Pac-10/12 vs. Big 12?

                        Don't answer. Given your comparison of Utah to Wyoming, it's clear nothing you say should be taken seriously.

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                        • Originally posted by Top Ute View Post
                          7-3, Big 12. But I'm not the run who runs away from evidence contrary to the argument at hand. In fact, I'll gladly provide it. It's obvious Moliere can't.
                          You might want to check wins against non-BCS opponents as it might show the PAC is better than the Big 12 there as well. Perhaps Holiday Bowl wins is in your favor as well. What about Friday night games broadcast on Versus?
                          "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                          • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                            Yeah, I forgot about Stanford. Is the Orange Bowl still a BCS game?

                            The PAC has had one, count that ONE, team in the national championship game, and they lost. But I guess I don't find it surprising that a Ute would count any and all BCS wins even if it results in a second place finish.

                            Two actually. But keep digging that grave.

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                            • Originally posted by Top Ute View Post
                              And even more "shilling"

                              BCS bowl game records (since 1988)
                              Mountain West: .750, (3-1)
                              Southeastern: .714, (15-6)
                              WAC: .667, (2-1)
                              Pac-12: .625, (10-6)
                              Big Ten: .478, (11-12)
                              Big East: .462, (6-7)
                              Big 12: .444 (8-10)
                              Atlantic Coast: .154 (2-11)
                              Independents: .000 (0-3)

                              Additionally, the Pac-12 has featured BCS wins by five conference teams (USC, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Stanford), or 50 percent of its membership. The Big 12? Just four (Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas, Nebraska), or 33 percent of its membership.
                              Holy small sample sizes. Do you really think there is a statistically significant difference between 8-10 and 10-6? 5 teams versus 4 teams winning BCS games? Really?

                              The only comparison you could possibly try to put forward from that list that would have any statistical power or validity would be between the SEC and the ACC.

                              Did you ever take a statistics class?

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                              • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                                Yeah, I forgot about Stanford. Is the Orange Bowl still a BCS game?

                                The PAC has had one, count that ONE, team in the national championship game, and they lost
                                Say again?
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