The Big 12 expansion groundswell

[creekster]

I'm O U T. Ill wait for some chickens to hatch.

Prudence thy name is coach.

[UtahDan]

It was Last year your memory sucks.

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[Surfah]

And even more "shilling"

BCS bowl game records (since 1988)
Mountain West: .750, (3-1)
Southeastern: .714, (15-6)
WAC: .667, (2-1)
Pac-12: .625, (10-6)
Big Ten: .478, (11-12)
Big East: .462, (6-7)
Big 12: .444 (8-10)
Atlantic Coast: .154 (2-11)
Independents: .000 (0-3)

Additionally, the Pac-12 has featured BCS wins by five conference teams (USC, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Stanford), or 50 percent of its membership. The Big 12? Just four (Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas, Nebraska), or 33 percent of its membership.

How many national championship games has the Pac played in? How many have the Big 12 played in? Anyone can cherry pick stats. This is exercise is pointless.

[Top Ute]

Lol again. I forgot you suck at stats. Got any other cherry picked evidence?

I'm still waiting for you to provide any evidence. Other than your own insufficient memory and half-baked comparisons of one program within each league.

[Viking]

And even more "shilling"

BCS bowl game records (since 1988)
Mountain West: .750, (3-1)
Southeastern: .714, (15-6)
WAC: .667, (2-1)
Pac-12: .625, (10-6)
Big Ten: .478, (11-12)
Big East: .462, (6-7)
Big 12: .444 (8-10)
Atlantic Coast: .154 (2-11)
Independents: .000 (0-3)

Additionally, the Pac-12 has featured BCS wins by five conference teams (USC, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Stanford), or 50 percent of its membership. The Big 12? Just four (Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas, Nebraska), or 33 percent of its membership.

sure and byu has a nat championship and you dont. so what?

[Top Ute]

How many national championship games has the Pac played in? How many have the Big 12 played in? Anyone can cherry pick stats. This is exercise is pointless.

7-3, Big 12. But I'm not the run who runs away from evidence contrary to the argument at hand. In fact, I'll gladly provide it. It's obvious Moliere can't.

[Blueintheface]

Try last year, dumbass.

Pat.

[TripletDaddy]

7-3, Big 12. But I'm not the run who runs away from evidence contrary to the argument at hand. In fact, I'll gladly provide it. It's obvious Moliere can't.

You aren't the run that runs away?

Top Ute is a Moran!

[Moliere]

I'm still waiting for you to provide any evidence. Other than your own insufficient memory and half-baked comparisons of one program within each league.

Yeah, I forgot about Stanford. Is the Orange Bowl still a BCS game?

The PAC has had one, count that ONE, team in the national championship game, and they lost. But I guess I don't find it surprising that a Ute would count any and all BCS wins even if it results in a second place finish.

[il Padrino Ute]

Gaffords, stick around long enough and you'll find plenty of opportunities like this. It's almost as easy as picking apart aggy (though NOTHING is that easy!).

The Utes and their 45,000 seat Texas high school stadium believe that they somehow belong in the Pac16 beyond simple religious discrimination and are the greatest Pac12 shrills known to man.

To quote our own Lebowski, "Oh brother."

[Top Ute]

sure and byu has a nat championship and you dont. so what?

What's that have to do with Pac-10/12 vs. Big 12?

Don't answer. Given your comparison of Utah to Wyoming, it's clear nothing you say should be taken seriously.

[Moliere]

7-3, Big 12. But I'm not the run who runs away from evidence contrary to the argument at hand. In fact, I'll gladly provide it. It's obvious Moliere can't.

You might want to check wins against non-BCS opponents as it might show the PAC is better than the Big 12 there as well. Perhaps Holiday Bowl wins is in your favor as well. What about Friday night games broadcast on Versus?

[Top Ute]

Yeah, I forgot about Stanford. Is the Orange Bowl still a BCS game?

The PAC has had one, count that ONE, team in the national championship game, and they lost. But I guess I don't find it surprising that a Ute would count any and all BCS wins even if it results in a second place finish.

Two actually. But keep digging that grave.

[CardiacCoug]

And even more "shilling"

BCS bowl game records (since 1988)
Mountain West: .750, (3-1)
Southeastern: .714, (15-6)
WAC: .667, (2-1)
Pac-12: .625, (10-6)
Big Ten: .478, (11-12)
Big East: .462, (6-7)
Big 12: .444 (8-10)
Atlantic Coast: .154 (2-11)
Independents: .000 (0-3)

Additionally, the Pac-12 has featured BCS wins by five conference teams (USC, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Stanford), or 50 percent of its membership. The Big 12? Just four (Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas, Nebraska), or 33 percent of its membership.

Holy small sample sizes. Do you really think there is a statistically significant difference between 8-10 and 10-6? 5 teams versus 4 teams winning BCS games? Really?

The only comparison you could possibly try to put forward from that list that would have any statistical power or validity would be between the SEC and the ACC.

Did you ever take a statistics class?

[TripletDaddy]

Yeah, I forgot about Stanford. Is the Orange Bowl still a BCS game?

The PAC has had one, count that ONE, team in the national championship game, and they lost

Say again?