The Big 12 expansion groundswell

[Jeff Lebowski]

I didn't even mention your analogy. although I agree that it doesn't work. I was simply saying that I don't think SeattleUte predicted all of these events.

No he didn't. He predicted that BYU will never go to the B12 (he may still be right on that - time will tell). He also said that nobody is talking about BYU to the B12 but BYU fans.

SU makes lots of predictions. He rubs our noses in it when he is right and deftly changes the subject when he is wrong (sly dog). But I like the fact that he is bold enough to make predictions. Keeps things entertaining.

SU, I am happy you were right about the PAC12 saying no to OU/OSU.

[Viking]

No he didn't. He predicted that BYU will never go to the B12 (he may still be right on that - time will tell). He also said that nobody is talking about BYU to the B12 but BYU fans.

SU makes lots of predictions. He rubs our noses in it when he is right and deftly changes the subject when he is wrong (sly dog). But I like the fact that he is bold enough to make predictions. Keeps things entertaining.

SU, I am happy you were right about the PAC12 saying no to OU/OSU.

We call it intellectual dishonesty where I'm from. I particularly enjoy SU's posts where he accuses the Mo'mon church of the same. The irony is far too enjoyable in such instances.

Typical lawyer.

[creekster]

I didn't even mention your analogy. although I agree that it doesn't work. I was simply saying that I don't think SeattleUte predicted all of these events.

Agree with whom?

He predicted a lot of things. Some were correct, but most werent, just like the clock.

[Top Ute]

Gaffords, stick around long enough and you'll find plenty of opportunities like this. It's almost as easy as picking apart aggy (though NOTHING is that easy!).

The Utes and their 45,000 seat Texas high school stadium believe that they somehow belong in the Pac16 beyond simple religious discrimination and are the greatest Pac12 shrills known to man.

That's funny. Most people would call it tit-for-tat given BYU's less-than-stellar record in this arena, but I get that BYU Fan needs to satisfy his persecution complex.

[Top Ute]

More "shilling"

2010 records, BCS vs. other BCS teams:

1. Pac-10 (12-7) -.632

2. SEC (15-10) - .600

3. Big 12 (11-9) - .550

4. Big Ten (8-8) - .500

5. ACC (9-14) - .391

6. Big East (6-13) - .314

[Viking]

That's funny. Most people would call it tit-for-tat given BYU's less-than-stellar record in this arena, but I get that BYU Fan needs to satisfy his persecution complex.

You mean beliefs it abandoned decades ago? Typical Ute logic.

Uh, I'm a full-bore apostate, believe closer to 0% than 50% of what the Mo'mon church says, had my name withdrawn, etc., and yet still find religious discrimination of any kind abhorrent, particularly that unabashedly exhibited by the Pac10 (how else would a team equiv to WYOMING'S following gotten in!!). But, in Ute logic, two wrongs does indeed make a right, particularly when the original offending party fixes its problem.

[creekster]

That's funny. Most people would call it tit-for-tat given BYU's less-than-stellar record in this arena, but I get that BYU Fan needs to satisfy his persecution complex.

And you need to try to overcome your inferiority complex?

And how could it be tit-for-tat? Is BYU good at keeping people out of conferences for religious reasons? Be careful or you will confuse Triplet.

[Moliere]

Sagarin rankings, last 10 years:

2010: 1. Pac-10, 3. Big 12

2009: 3. Pac-10, 5. Big 12

2008: 2. Big 12, 4. Pac-10

2007: 2. Pac-10, 3. Big 12

2006: 3. Pac-10, 6. Big 12

2005: 3. Big 12, 4. Pac-10

2004: 2. Pac-10, 3.* Big 12 (Big 12 was actually fourth, but 1-A Indy was third, so they're third in terms of conference strength)

2003: 4. Pac-10, 5. Big 12

2002: 1. Big 12, 2. Pac-10

2001: 2. Big 12, 3. Pac-10

6-4 in favor of Pac-10, and 4 of the last 5 years

Lol! So Washington State is better than Baylor.

I'm trying to remember the last the PAC had two teams in BCS games in the same year. It happens quite a bit to the Big 12.

[Viking]

Sheesh, look at us. Already acting like we are in the B12. And so it begins...

[Mormon Red Death]

Lol! So Washington State is better than Baylor.

I'm trying to remember the last the PAC had two teams in BCS games in the same year. It happens quite a bit to the Big 12.

It was Last year your memory sucks.

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[Top Ute]

And even more "shilling"

BCS bowl game records (since 1988)
Mountain West: .750, (3-1)
Southeastern: .714, (15-6)
WAC: .667, (2-1)
Pac-12: .625, (10-6)
Big Ten: .478, (11-12)
Big East: .462, (6-7)
Big 12: .444 (8-10)
Atlantic Coast: .154 (2-11)
Independents: .000 (0-3)

Additionally, the Pac-12 has featured BCS wins by five conference teams (USC, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Stanford), or 50 percent of its membership. The Big 12? Just four (Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas, Nebraska), or 33 percent of its membership.

[TripletDaddy]

More "shilling"

2010 records, BCS vs. other BCS teams:

1. Pac-10 (12-7) -.632

2. SEC (15-10) - .600

3. Big 12 (11-9) - .550

4. Big Ten (8-8) - .500

5. ACC (9-14) - .391

6. Big East (6-13) - .314

LA Ute, take note.

[Moliere]

More "shilling"

2010 records, BCS vs. other BCS teams:

1. Pac-10 (12-7) -.632

2. SEC (15-10) - .600

3. Big 12 (11-9) - .550

4. Big Ten (8-8) - .500

5. ACC (9-14) - .391

6. Big East (6-13) - .314

Lol again. I forgot you suck at stats. Got any other cherry picked evidence?

[Top Ute]

Lol! So Washington State is better than Baylor.

I'm trying to remember the last the PAC had two teams in BCS games in the same year. It happens quite a bit to the Big 12.

Try last year, dumbass.

[Coach McGuirk]

Sheesh, look at us. Already acting like we are in the B12. And so it begins...

I'm O U T. Ill wait for some chickens to hatch.