The Big 12 expansion groundswell

[Uncle Ted]

[Scorcho]

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if the Big XII lost A&M and the Oklahoma Schools, I'd expect the Big East to immediately go after Kansas, KSU and Missouri. Because, you'd expect the Big XII to invite Pitt, WVU and Louisville.

I'm not completely sure who wins the fight for schools between a depleted Big XII and the Big East.

[Maximus]

-BCS access issues are irrelevant as soon as the Plus-one format comes into play.

-The scheduling discontent is so overblown right now, I could right an entire epistle on it. In fact, I have.

-Of course Texas helps alleviate those issues. It's one more great game we can schedule in October/November as often as we want, and it will only encourage more teams to think about independence. The more independent schools there are, the better for BYU.

First, we have scheduled one BCS 1-1 in the last year. DOesnt give good signs.

Second, do you count southern miss as a quality non bcs opponent?

[Maximus]

[shoganai]

First, we have scheduled one BCS 1-1 in the last year. DOesnt give good signs.

Second, do you count southern miss as a quality non bcs opponent?

If you can't take one glance at future schedules and see that we're already on the verge of serious upgrades over the annual 12-game slate in the MWC, then I think you need to adjust your glasses.

[shoganai]

First, we have scheduled one BCS 1-1 in the last year. DOesnt give good signs.

Second, do you count southern miss as a quality non bcs opponent?

Oh, and you are aware that Southern Miss has been to more bowl games in the last decade than BYU, right?

[WashingtonCoug]

If you can't take one glance at future schedules and see that we're already on the verge of serious upgrades over the annual 12-game slate in the MWC, then I think you need to adjust your glasses.

Sure we might be scheduling better teams, but how many are we going to see in LES? Also, I don't use the MWC as a measuring stick. I use the BCS conference schedules as a measuring stick. I want solid competition coming into LES every year, not every three years.

[shoganai]

Sure we might be scheduling better teams, but how many are we going to see in LES?

More than we ever have in the past.

Also, I don't use the MWC as a measuring stick. I use the BCS conference schedules as a measuring stick. I want solid competition coming into LES every year, not every three years.

So in other words you want Notre Dame's schedule of nine BCS teams a year?

If those are your honest hopes/expectations then you're right, independence probably won't please you as a fan.

[Hsaru]

Oh, and you are aware that Southern Miss has been to more bowl games in the last decade than BYU, right?

Southern Miss has probably been more to bowl games than Texas in the past decade...means nearly nothing.

[Maximus]

Oh, and you are aware that Southern Miss has been to more bowl games in the last decade than BYU, right?

is that supposed to mean something? Yes, BYU had its 4 worst years in the past 30+ years in the last decade. You didnt even respond to the grand total of ONE bcs 1-1. That is troubling.

[Goatnapper'96]

Sure we might be scheduling better teams, but how many are we going to see in LES? Also, I don't use the MWC as a measuring stick. I use the BCS conference schedules as a measuring stick. I want solid competition coming into LES every year, not every three years.

This is the rub. It seems to me that the BYU home schedule is suffering due to independence. I think the road and neutral game schedules sound great, but the home schedule is suffering.

In many respects it is an upgrade but right now there is no indicator that the home schedule will provide very interesting matchups from the middle of October through the end of November.

[Maximus]

So in other words you want Notre Dame's schedule of nine BCS teams a year?

If those are your honest hopes/expectations then you're right, independence probably won't please you as a fan.

LOL he didnt even mention ND. We have one BCS game at home next year. We have a good schedule 2013. There are no signs of getting 2-3 BCS home games at home any year besides 1.

[Maximus]

If you can't take one glance at future schedules and see that we're already on the verge of serious upgrades over the annual 12-game slate in the MWC, then I think you need to adjust your glasses.

were talking home games. We have yet to see a "serious upgrade" except one year because of a 2-1 happening to fall the same year our only other BCS 1-1 is scheduled.

[Uncle Ted]

First, we have scheduled one BCS 1-1 in the last year. DOesnt give good signs.

Second, do you count southern miss as a quality non bcs opponent?

Southern Miss, Brett Favre's school, is cool but what is up with scheduling Weber St and playing them in September? I could see playing them in November and maybe in October but September?!?

[shoganai]

Every single one of these arguments about scheduling are based on one of two things...

-Something HASN'T happened yet, so we're jumping to conclusions that it WON'T happen, even though the administration that actually puts the schedules together assures us that things will be fine after 2012. Sorry, I'll listen to them before I listen to any of you - nothing personal, you understand...

or...

-We're not playing as many BCS games a year as we subjectively decide we should.

Both of those are pretty flimsy arguments, IMO. But, this thread has been hijacked enough, so that's all I will say on the matter.