The Big 12 expansion groundswell

[Goatnapper'96]

Speaking of the long game, there is a real threat that the SEC and B1G create their own super league with their own playoff and championship. The Big 12 though currently enjoying a position of strength, has to be looking at ways to thwart that potentiality. Basketball could be the key.

I agree but the question still remains how many teams does the Big 12 want in its conference?

If the optimal size is 22 or 24 I think it can finish its 4 corner raid and add Utes and ASU and still have room to absorb 6-8 ACC teams.

The only thing I think the future football world has decided is Oregon State and Wazzu are out.

[LiveCoug]

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[Color Me Badd Fan]

Someone recently shared internal rankings by the B1G and Stanford was in the third tier. With Utah. It’s time to abandon this dumb pretext that academics are the driver in this stuff. They added Oregon for heavens sake.

I have no idea what the incentive would be for the Big 10 to add anymore schools out west at this point after UW and Oregon. If they in fact think so little of Stanford, then Stanford will either give up football or play in the Big 12.

[Jeff Lebowski]

No!!!!!

[Applejack]

Speaking of the long game, there is a real threat that the SEC and B1G create their own super league with their own playoff and championship. The Big 12 though currently enjoying a position of strength, has to be looking at ways to thwart that potentiality. Basketball could be the key.

what is the big XII's position of strength? That they still exist? We've entered into a three-tiered world: the haves (the SEC + BIG 10), the have-a-lot-less (the acc and the BIGXII); and the have have nots (g5). Nothing that the big XII does with basketball or that the acc does with baseball is going to stem that advantage of the haves.

[Applejack]

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[tooblue]

I agree but the question still remains how many teams does the Big 12 want in its conference?

If the optimal size is 22 or 24 I think it can finish its 4 corner raid and add Utes and ASU and still have room to absorb 6-8 ACC teams.

The only thing I think the future football world has decided is Oregon State and Wazzu are out.

Yup, it looks like the Beavers and Wazzu are in serious trouble.

[MartyFunkhouser]

Scheer has been one of the most accurate sources in all of this. Hope he is right on this one. I'll take that life raft to survive the next 5-10 years until the split becomes official.

[beefytee]

So, if that is the final configuration for the next 7 years or so, I guess BYU has some OOC games to fill in for Utah and Arizona. The only other game that could be affected is with Stanford. With such a big league, will they just play those games as OOC games, or is BYU going to need to get some quick replacements in 2026 when they have both Utah and Arizona scheduled.

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[Green Monstah]

Someone recently shared internal rankings by the B1G and Stanford was in the third tier. With Utah. It’s time to abandon this dumb pretext that academics are the driver in this stuff. They added Oregon for heavens sake.

Summon HFN!

[LiveCoug]

I mean, it sucks that utah is in, everyone on this board/country/world/universe can agree with that, but with all the 4 corner schools in, that means less games for BYU in Texas.

[UVACoug]

Yup ... and there is no reason to rush to add ASU or Utah. The next shoe to drop is Florida State:

https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...-trustee-says/

The article is a couple of days old, but todays Washington and Oregon news could only ramp up action in the ACC. Utah adds nothing. The right ACC teams are worth waiting on.

I don't see how all the noise about ACC teams bolting can be anything but fantasy talk. The Grant of Rights is iron clad. I've seen no one make a plausible argument that it can somehow be evaded. The only way out is for a team wanting to leave to buy their rights back, which would be far more expensive than even the $30M a year they are currently getting from ESPN for the next 10 years. And there is nothing compelling either ESPN or the ACC to deal with such an offer.

[Green Monstah]

I mean, it sucks that utah is in, everyone on this board/country/world/universe can agree with that, but with all the 4 corner schools in, that means less games for BYU in Texas.

Didn’t think about that. Crap.

[UVACoug]

Corvalis is closer to the coast than Eugene. NYK.

You learn something new every day. I have no idea where Corvalis is located.

[Goatnapper'96]

I mean, it sucks that utah is in, everyone on this board/country/world/universe can agree with that, but with all the 4 corner schools in, that means less games for BYU in Texas.

Texas is full of pussies! See Uncle Ted.......

8 team divisions.

The western 5 could get KSU (EMAW) or KU (Rock Chalk) and Texas Tech (Guns Up) or perhaps they will send the Jayhawk State east and put the western 5 with OSU (Guns Up-aaaah) and Tech and TCU(sweaty man boobs fellow priesthood holder) from Texas.

In any case I still see games in Texas every other year at a minimum and with 2 cross divisional matchups it would be more often than that.