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  • Originally posted by Clark Addison View Post
    I think most people here, whether or not they like BYU sports, and whether or not they are active LDS members, would like to see BYU and the church become more accepting of gay students and members. Inclusion in the Big 12 is likely to drive pressure in this direction, while continued exclusion is likely to drive more of a isolationist posture that will drive re-entrenchment and defensiveness. So really, I think we can all agree that Big 12 inclusion is good for everyone. Unless you don't care about gay people, I guess.
    :crazy:
    When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

    --Jonathan Swift

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    • We made the final 17!

      http://www.espn.com/college-football...ools-expansion

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      • Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post
        Try to describe the Big 12 without using the word cluster.
        One of the grandest benefits of the enlightenment was the realization that our moral sense must be based on the welfare of living individuals, not on their immortal souls. Honest and passionate folks can strongly disagree regarding spiritual matters, so it's imperative that we not allow such considerations to infringe on the real happiness of real people.

        Woot

        I believe religion has much inherent good and has born many good fruits.
        SU

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        • Originally posted by snowcat View Post
          Try to describe the Big 12 without using the word cluster.
          Dumpster-Fire.jpg

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          • Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post

            Did you notice that three schools were not mentioned... Pac-X teams wanting to jump ship.
            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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            • Nah. Probably like SDSU, Fresno, UNLV.

              If the vote comes down to video presentations... HD Truck.
              "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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              • There is no way (well, i guess there is) the B12 is dumb enough to have a serious contender list of 17 schools. They HAVE to have already narrowed it down to much, much fewer schools. It's so silly.

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                • Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post
                  There is no way (well, i guess there is) the B12 is dumb enough to have a serious contender list of 17 schools. They HAVE to have already narrowed it down to much, much fewer schools. It's so silly.
                  "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                  • Originally posted by Commando View Post
                    Nah. Probably like SDSU, Fresno, UNLV.

                    If the vote comes down to video presentations... HD Truck.
                    The PAC-X schools wouldn't want to tip off Larry Scott and cause an unnecessary sh*t storm. There is no problem mentioning schools like SDSU, Fresno, and UNLV.
                    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                    "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                    • Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post

                      "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                      "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                      "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                      • Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                        Former gay big 12 athletes dont want byu.
                        This is my favorite part:
                        "I've announced BYU in many sports when they've played Big 12 teams," said Banning, who worked four years as an announcer for Kansas State basketball, volleyball and baseball before recently moving to Austin, where he now works part time in the University of Texas' athletics department. "Every interaction I've had with a BYU student, faculty and fan has always been great. Zero issues. But there is that code. As an LGBT person working in the Big 12, it could be a problem."
                        Wait - you've already been there doing it. Nothing...NOTHING has changed at BYU as far as what they are doing. And...quite frankly...if anything, BYU has become more accepting of LGBT folks over the past few years. But now, all of a sudden, if BYU joins the BIGXII, now it could be a problem?

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                        • Smoke!
                          "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

                          Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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                          • Originally posted by DrumNFeather View Post
                            Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats.
                            - Howard Aiken

                            Any sufficiently complicated platform contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of half of a functional programming language.
                            - Variation on Greenspun's Tenth Rule

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                            • Originally posted by lambdacoug View Post
                              Boo. Déclassé.
                              "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                              "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                              • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                                The PAC-X schools wouldn't want to tip off Larry Scott and cause an unnecessary sh*t storm. There is no problem mentioning schools like SDSU, Fresno, and UNLV.


                                "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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