The Big 12 expansion groundswell

[dabrockster]

Art. You're late to the party. read up on page 89 on this...

[LiveCoug]

LandThieves (I have no idea why i'm following this guy):

"Sounds to me that the Cougars are committed to being Indepedent,,, Ruh Roh #BYU"

[MarkGrace]

Not so fast, my friend???

See post #2664 and the subsequent reply.

[MarkGrace]

LandThieves (I have no idea why i'm following this guy):

"Sounds to me that the Cougars are committed to being Indepedent,,, Ruh Roh #BYU"

"We're committed to being independent."

Welcome to negotiations 101.

[LA Ute]

Again, we aren't talking about Utahs invite to the PAC 12!

No, we sure aren't.

[WashingtonCoug]

LandThieves (I have no idea why i'm following this guy):

"Sounds to me that the Cougars are committed to being Indepedent,,, Ruh Roh #BYU"

All I've gotta say is if BYU doesn't make the jump and the schedule remains the same crappy home schedule, I won't be buying season tickets anymore. I'll give them two years, but after that they need to have better teams coming to town on a more consistent basis.

[TripletDaddy]

"We're committed to being independent."

Welcome to negotiations 101.

Exactly. It would be foolish and desperate to agree to ridiculous terms. For example, not getting paid a full share for a few years. That is an example of a stupid thing to do. I admit it is an extreme and unlikely example, but you all get my point.

[Paperback Writer]

And now that you set me off! Side with Nebraska on what? Equal revenue sharing that no one could even change before Nebraska squealed anytime a change was brought up?

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArtic...CLID=205157134

Aggy take on revenue sharing 2/23/10
http://mobile.texags.com/Forums/5/Topics/1584316

Same story as every time! big Bully Texas when we can't compete! That is it it is unfair when they take all our money! BECAUSE you insisted on having it this way.

Nebraska and Texas basically agreed on revenue sharing - that wasn't the problem.

Or did Nebraska want someone to side with them on 'qualifiers'? Sorry but if your players can't spell 'cat' then they don't need to be playing football on a scholarship. Higher academic standards were needed anyways! the SWC had just gotten slaughtered with sanctions and it was just a matter of time before they nailed 75% of the BIG 12 if we didn't police ourselves first!

Partial qualifiers were a big part of Nebraska's issues with Texas. Nebraska was willing to take chances on partial qualifiers, educate them, and allow them to earn a degree while playing football. Texas had the opinion that if they can't qualify and play for the Longhorns, we don't want them playing for anyone else. Texas may be the superior academic institution but Nebraska graduates a higher percentage of it's football players and has had more academic All-Americans. Texas just didn't want to make the investment on marginal academic student athletics. How Mr. Wonderlic test score of "6" Vince Young ever spelled "cat" correctly is beyone me. Nebraska wasn't worried about sanctions, they police themselves fairly well. It was the cheatin' SWC schools along with OU that were in jeopardy.

Other issues Nebraska had was moving the Big 12 HQ from KC to Dallas, not rotating the Big 12 CCG from North to South, and losing the annual Nebraska-Oklahoma game on Thanksgiving.

Texas used its muscle to get its way; acting in its own best interests. Nebraska does the same and determined it was in its own best interests to join the Big Ten. To have fans of Big 12 North teams whine about being abandoned by the Big Red when they voted against Nebraska at every turn with Missouri even publically lobbying for inclusion to the Big Ten - that's a little too much. If a division wants solidarity from its anchor program, then one doesn't vote against it every time.

[LiveCoug]

Deepthrowt cracks me up... He is trying sooooo hard to convince people that he is part of all the inner workings of the BYU athletic department.

"negotiating but so far our finger safely off trigger & gun holstered. If u thought BYU not hot commodity u should listen to bidding war!"

[Viking]

Deepthrowt cracks me up... He is trying sooooo hard to convince people that he is part of all the inner workings of the BYU athletic department.

"negotiating but so far our finger safely off trigger & gun holstered. If u thought BYU not hot commodity u should listen to bidding war!"

i just think it's bizarre that there's a byu insider with the handle "deepthrowt"

[Surfah]

i just think it's bizarre that there's a byu insider with the handle "deepthrowt"

I also love how he acts like he's sitting in on these meetings. His latest tweet cracked me up. "Up for air. Thus far, independence winning." Like he's been sitting with Dodds, Beebe and Holmoe and Samuleson and ran out during a potty break to tweet.

[Paperback Writer]

Maybe if the North would have remembered how to play football, they wouldn't have had to tuck tail and run! It took Nebraska too long to figure out they were a has been and would never see glory days again...

The reports of Nebraska's death are greatly exaggerated...and your memory is very short. All great programs go through a down cycle. Nebraska is still recovering but is on an upswing.

Nebraska 2002-2007: 44-32 .579
Texas 1988-93: 35-31-1 .522
Oklahoma 1994-99: 30-38-1 .435

This year, we see a 7-5 season because it is a rebuilding completely. Next year, we expect to be back at 10 + win season...

Like where Nebraska has been the past two seasons. So is this anticipated 10+ win season a Texas return to glory or are the Longhorns done with their glory days (as you imply with Nebraska)?

[Coach McGuirk]

Deepthrowt cracks me up... He is trying sooooo hard to convince people that he is part of all the inner workings of the BYU athletic department.

"negotiating but so far our finger safely off trigger & gun holstered. If u thought BYU not hot commodity u should listen to bidding war!"

Must be between the Big 12 North and Big 12 South.

[Blueintheface]

We need to add a Big 12 smack emoticon, stat!

[ERCougar]

You continually make my job very difficult

Cmon...I'm just playing. And this is completely and totally directed at SU--not you, LA, or any of the other Ute posters on the board. Although apparently, HL has become quite the student of my posts and keeps thinking I'm talking to him. I guess he can have a little if he wants.

Most of us seem to have a pretty realistic grasp on our place in the football universe--we'd be lucky to be in the club. I'll even admit to being a 'jealous little baby' when it comes to PAC 12 football road trips, although if we get into the Big 12, I'll take our basketball schedule hands down.