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  • #10351
    Originally posted by Art Vandelay View Post
    In a board full of dull or nonsensical (falafel???) board names, yours is the worst.
    Like you don't enjoy falafel. Next thing you'll be telling us is that you don't like edamame.
    Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

    Dig your own grave, and save!

    "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

    "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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    • #10352
      Originally posted by Eddie View Post
      Total honesty - without board persona or trolling:

      I second your "hate is never a good thing" as closest to the best answer.

      Having a favorite team that you support and having the desire for your team to win all of their games is great. But I think we cross the line of following the teachings of Jesus Christ when we dislike our team's rival to the point that we describe it as hate and even get to the point of wanting bad things for them.

      Gordon Monson, as much as I think the guy is a dork, probably best describes how we "should" feel about our teams rival when he goes off about not cheering for or against anyone and just enjoying the competition. Note - I'm talking about when that rival is just playing some other random team. Of course you want them to lose when your favorite team is playing them. Or better said, you want your team to win.

      But I have a hard time imagining that Christ would be "OK" with one of his followers hating BYU. Of course, I also think that he wouldn't want one of his followers to hate the U either. I mean, we are talking about the guy who said love your enemies and forgive everyone that offends you - including the fellas nailing you to a cross to crucify you. I imagine he would find any reason we could give to "hate" a rival sport team fairly trivial and silly.

      I admit that my initial post on this subject was a little trolling.

      But the best trolling efforts tend to include some amount of truth. I don't think anyone's fandom will be part of any final judgement interview or anything. I do think in the end a lot of people are going to discover that their hate of a rival was kind of silly - and they are going to wish they had figured that out much sooner...

      So I suppose the answer is in the definition of what you think "OK" means.

      OK - way too much seriousness for one day, back to normal now!
      OK, Eddie, you work on becoming like Christ. I'll keep hating the Utes!

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      • #10353
        Originally posted by Flattop View Post
        Gordon often has this kind of discussion with his co-host Jake who talks about sports hate being different from real hate.

        Sports should just be about entertainment and diversion. Within that context I don't have a problem with "hating" your rival. Outside of that context, where it is not about a diversion, then hate is definitely a bad thing. If you are consumed with hate for anything you are primarily hurting yourself and may end up hurting others.

        Hate destroys, even if it is only the hater.
        It is the path to the Dark Side...
        Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats.
        - Howard Aiken

        Any sufficiently complicated platform contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of half of a functional programming language.
        - Variation on Greenspun's Tenth Rule

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        • #10354
          Originally posted by jay santos View Post
          OK, Eddie, you work on becoming like Christ. I'll keep hating the Utes!
          Not me - I'm a BYU fan. According to Utes I'm supposed to be hypocritical. I wouldn't want to destroy their perfect premise of the holier than thou hypocritical Y fan!

          Besides, I'm not the one hating on the LORD'S UNIVERSITY! So I figure my hate isn't as bad as theirs. Right?

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          • #10355
            Originally posted by Eddie View Post
            Not me - I'm a BYU fan. According to Utes I'm supposed to be hypocritical. I wouldn't want to destroy their perfect premise of the holier than thou hypocritical Y fan!

            Besides, I'm not the one hating on the LORD'S UNIVERSITY! So I figure my hate isn't as bad as theirs. Right?
            Self righteous, not hypocritical, self righteous.
            "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

            "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

            "I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."

            -Rick Majerus

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            • #10356
              Originally posted by The Notorious J.I.C. View Post
              Self righteous, not hypocritical, self righteous.
              How about hypercritical then?

              And am I OK leaving out arrogant? Or does it just not carry the same weight without it?

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              • #10357
                Originally posted by Eddie View Post
                Not me - I'm a BYU fan. According to Utes I'm supposed to be hypocritical. I wouldn't want to destroy their perfect premise of the holier than thou hypocritical Y fan!

                Besides, I'm not the one hating on the LORD'S UNIVERSITY! So I figure my hate isn't as bad as theirs. Right?
                Hey, I just "hate" the football and basketball teams, not the whole school!
                Col. Klink: "Staff officers are so clever."
                Gen. Burkhalter: "Klink, I am a staff officer."
                Col. Klink: "I didn't mean you sir, you're not clever."

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                • #10358
                  Originally posted by Eddie View Post
                  How about hypercritical then?

                  And am I OK leaving out arrogant? Or does it just not carry the same weight without it?
                  Humble -- Meek -- Submissive.
                  Col. Klink: "Staff officers are so clever."
                  Gen. Burkhalter: "Klink, I am a staff officer."
                  Col. Klink: "I didn't mean you sir, you're not clever."

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                  • #10359
                    Originally posted by Eddie View Post
                    How about hypercritical then?

                    And am I OK leaving out arrogant? Or does it just not carry the same weight without it?
                    Having arrogant in the phrase is a must
                    "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

                    "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

                    "I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."

                    -Rick Majerus

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                    • #10360
                      Please, make it stop!

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                      • #10361
                        Originally posted by Flattop View Post
                        Humble -- Meek -- Submissive.
                        I DARE you to not use those three words in describing the team that Utah played in Provo last month. Particularly submissive.

                        It just warms my heart to know that Bronco was so concerned about Utah, knowing that if BYU didn't throw that game to the Utes, Utah would be nearly into November without a single D1 FBS win. Makes me proud to support a school and team so concerned about their rival's feelings.

                        Bronco is a hero. Football truly is 5th.

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                        • #10362
                          Originally posted by Eddie View Post
                          I DARE you to not use those three words in describing the team that Utah played in Provo last month. Particularly submissive.

                          It just warms my heart to know that Bronco was so concerned about Utah, knowing that if BYU didn't throw that game to the Utes, Utah would be nearly into November without a single D1 FBS win. Makes me proud to support a school and team so concerned about their rival's feelings.

                          Bronco is a hero. Football truly is 5th.
                          Pitt?
                          "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

                          "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

                          "I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."

                          -Rick Majerus

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                          • #10363
                            Originally posted by Eddie View Post
                            I DARE you to not use those three words in describing the team that Utah played in Provo last month. Particularly submissive.

                            It just warms my heart to know that Bronco was so concerned about Utah, knowing that if BYU didn't throw that game to the Utes, Utah would be nearly into November without a single D1 FBS win. Makes me proud to support a school and team so concerned about their rival's feelings.

                            Bronco is a hero. Football truly is 5th.
                            I'm pretty sure Utah defeated Pitt (which is a D1 FBS win)

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                            • #10364
                              Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                              I would hate to be in a foxhole with you. Buck up, soldier.
                              atheistcougar reacts to each groundless Big12 tweet (NSFW, authentic vocab!)

                              [YOUTUBE]dsx2vdn7gpY[/YOUTUBE]

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                              • #10365
                                Originally posted by The Notorious J.I.C. View Post
                                Pitt?
                                Originally posted by Scorcho View Post
                                I'm pretty sure Utah defeated Pitt (which is a D1 FBS win)
                                Crap - you caught me not paying attention.

                                Let's pretend I said "Only 1 D1 FBS victory, and it's nearly November!"



                                Of course - not sure I'd brag too much about Pitt...

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