The Big 12 expansion groundswell

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  • lambdacoug
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 3981

    #18166
    Originally posted by byu71 View Post
    Students listen? Why do you think Ernie Wilkinson put in the honor code and it is sustained even today. Because they know 18-24 year olds that are in college can't be trusted to think correctly. They think emotionally.

    This of course is a generalization. I am not talking about the 18-24 year olds who belong to posters on here.


    I wonder how all those 18-24 year old members that don't go to BYU manage things without the HC?
    Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats.
    - Howard Aiken

    Any sufficiently complicated platform contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of half of a functional programming language.
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    • falafel
      loves to talk on things
      • Mar 2009
      • 37836

      #18167
      Originally posted by lambdacoug View Post


      I wonder how all those 18-24 year old members that don't go to BYU manage things without the HC?
      Or how BYU possibly functioned as a university with all those 18-24 year olds in the 85 years before the HC was introduced?
      Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

      Dig your own grave, and save!

      "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

      "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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      • creekster
        It is NOT a monkey!
        • Nov 2008
        • 22661

        #18168
        Originally posted by falafel View Post
        Or how BYU possibly functioned as a university with all those 18-24 year olds in the 85 years before the HC was introduced?
        Pre-hippy history is irrelevant.
        PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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        • Uncle Ted
          The Big 12 money shot.
          • Apr 2010
          • 28853

          #18169
          Bob Bowlsby on Hookem.com podcast...

          HIGHLIGHTS:

          Process is in no way a "short-term discussion" and also that it doesn't matter how you do in one game (re Oklahoma and Houston). Looking deeper than one game or season


          "This isn't just about football". Bowlsby wants to strengthen everything from academics to Olympic sports.. Potential members need to win championships all around, be championship contenders.


          League hopes to have the upcoming championship site for football announced in November and wants it to remain there for a few years


          Lots of talk about 3rd Tier rights, still talking with ESPN and Fox


          "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
          "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
          "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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          • Topper
            Pre-Historic Man
            • Nov 2011
            • 11764

            #18170

            Note to Big XII:

            BYU is currently ranked 7th in women's soccer, 10th in women's volleyball, 13th in men's cross country, and 27th in women's cross country. Anybody listening? These are for just the early fall sports.

            Of course, those comments by Bowlsby make it sound like expansion if it is to happen won't happen this fall.
            "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

            Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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            • Uncle Ted
              The Big 12 money shot.
              • Apr 2010
              • 28853

              #18171
              Originally posted by Topper View Post
              Note to Big XII:

              BYU is currently ranked 7th in women's soccer, 10th in women's volleyball, 13th in men's cross country, and 27th in women's cross country. Anybody listening? These are for just the early fall sports.

              Of course, those comments by Bowlsby make it sound like expansion if it is to happen won't happen this fall.
              It seems the Big 12 presidents will have a full agenda to cover for the Oct 17th meeting. I could still see expansion happening for the 2017 season, however. It may cost the expansion schools a pile of money.

              As for being competitive in sports besides football are they any other schools that look as good as BYU? The fact that Bob even brings that up seems to say that BYU won't be a football-only school in the Big 12.
              "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
              "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
              "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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              • Uncle Ted
                The Big 12 money shot.
                • Apr 2010
                • 28853

                #18172
                All these insiders are confusing the hell out of my on who has presented and who hasn't...

                Here, according to sources familiar with the process, is where we are in the Big 12 Will Expand/Big 12 Won’t Expand Derby.


                Interviews/presentations: They will continue through the end of next week. Of the 11 schools on the interview “list”, UConn, Houston, UCF and USF had made (as of Friday morning) their sales pitches. Remaining: Air Force, BYU, SMU, Rice, Colorado State, Tulane, and Cincinnati.


                It is a two-tiered list: Cincinnati, UConn, BYU and UCF are in the first group and have already been vetted by the Big 12. Their presentations were filled with additional details beyond the basics.


                The other 7 schools required more of an introduction and have almost no chance of making the final cut unless some major unknown additions are made in their presentations. Most of those schools are being interviewed for political reasons.


                Houston, you have a problem.
                "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                • lambdacoug
                  Junior Member
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 3981

                  #18173
                  Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                  All these insiders are confusing the hell out of my on who has presented and who hasn't...




                  Houston, you have a problem.
                  Apollo Big XII
                  Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats.
                  - Howard Aiken

                  Any sufficiently complicated platform contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of half of a functional programming language.
                  - Variation on Greenspun's Tenth Rule

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                  • SeattleUte
                    Faith crisis consultant
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 20837

                    #18174
                    This is the coup de grace for BYU. I'm sorry. I tried to warn you.

                    http://nyti.ms/2cEAWeK
                    When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                    --Jonathan Swift

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                    • SCcoug
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 7625

                      #18175
                      I wasn't counting on BYU playing in the Greensboro regional.

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                      • BlueK
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2011
                        • 7112

                        #18176
                        Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                        This is the coup de grace for BYU. I'm sorry. I tried to warn you.

                        http://nyti.ms/2cEAWeK
                        This bodes well for the women's soccer team. Maybe the final four will be played closer to home now. Hopefully they'll move it to somewhere in Texas. Nice 3-0 drubbing of #7 ranked Ohio State on the road tonight.

                        Last edited by BlueK; 09-12-2016, 06:26 PM.

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                        • Omaha 680
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 11161

                          #18177
                          Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                          This is the coup de grace for BYU. I'm sorry. I tried to warn you.

                          http://nyti.ms/2cEAWeK
                          I can truly feel how sorry you are.

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                          • Uncle Ted
                            The Big 12 money shot.
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 28853

                            #18178
                            Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                            This is the coup de grace for BYU. I'm sorry. I tried to warn you.

                            http://nyti.ms/2cEAWeK
                            Clearly the University of Utah supports BYU policies. They had their chance to forfeit playing BYU but welcomed them anyway. Of course, it was one of the few chances for Utah to get primetime national exposure instead of being one of those late games on the PAC-12 network (that no one, it seems, can find on their cable/sat). They gave into the temptation instead of standing up for gay rights. I'm sorry. I tried to warn you, man. Now we are all in this together.
                            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • SeattleUte
                              Faith crisis consultant
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 20837

                              #18179
                              Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
                              I can truly feel how sorry you are.
                              Actually that's not true. My preference is for BYU to come out of the Middle Ages and thereby qualify for Big 12 admission.
                              When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                              --Jonathan Swift

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                              • lambdacoug
                                Junior Member
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 3981

                                #18180
                                Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                                Actually that's not true. My preference is for BYU to come out of the Middle Ages and thereby qualify for Big 12 admission.
                                Which is precisely the message your body of work here conveys. How did we ever read you so wrong?
                                Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats.
                                - Howard Aiken

                                Any sufficiently complicated platform contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of half of a functional programming language.
                                - Variation on Greenspun's Tenth Rule

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