The Big 12 expansion groundswell

[snowcat]

fify

[Crockett]

lol.

Looks like we have solved the mystery about this Sprague character.

One thing that always puzzles me. Utah is in the P12 and now owns scoreboard for football and basketball. Yet, they act completely insecure on social media and seem obsessed with BYU. Just can't shake Little Brother Syndrome I guess.

It's because this owning scoreboard business is temporary. The fun for them is almost up and they know it.

[Commando]

Dennis, it won't be hard. Let me show you: "BYU has excellent credentials. It was hard to say no to such a class organization. Unfortunately, it just wasn't a good fit. The consensus was against football only. We are building a conference for the ages and our model is the Pac 12's excellence in all sports. For much the same reason, we cannot commit to any member that there will be no Sunday play. Our baseball championship has been on Sundays, for example. We want to showcase our great baseball players with their .400-plus batting averages at the optimum day of the week and time. We need to commit to the day of the week the championship will be played years in advance. There has been discussion of playing our Big 12 football or basketball Title game on Sundays. Also, we decided it was untenable to move our footprint further west. Cincinnati, with its storied basketball reputation and recent successes in football, and strong scientific research programs, is well positioned to pair up with West Virginia as a travel partner and natural rival. Needless to say, Houston has no negatives, spending hundreds of millions of dollars on improvements, its strong research capabilities, and its location right in the center of our footprint."

See Dennis, not hard. What are you going to do about it, cry that bigotry favored Cincinnati and Houston? Blame the LBGT community?

Looks like somebody's been scouring the baseball entry about batting averages on wikipedia!

[Uncle Ted]

Corn coming home?

University of Nebraska to rejoin Big 12?

This isn’t just a consipracy theory. Cold. Hard. Facts.

Big 12 expansion has been a huge topic of discussion around the internet lately. Not these parts, of course, because we don’t usually pay any mind to inferior football conferences that don’t play defense and have to make up new rules to play championship games. But just about everywhere else you look, you’re sure to find think pieces about why Houston is the perfect school to join the Big 12 or who the newest school to not make it to the next round of their realignment is.


What you’re not hearing about, though? It’s how there’s a dark horse in the race to join the Big 12. Not just join, either - they’re the favorite to rejoin the conference. That school is the University of Nebraska.
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http://www.blackheartgoldpants.com/2...-rejoin-big-12

[Jeff Lebowski]

Corn coming home?


http://www.blackheartgoldpants.com/2...-rejoin-big-12

[Uncle Ted]

Everyone is taking about Houston and their big win over Oklahoma...

Does Houston’s upset over Oklahoma enhance its chances to get invited to the Big 12, hurt its chances or have no bearing whatsoever?


-- Erik Wingate, Los Angeles


I recently spoke at length with someone very knowledgeable about the dynamics within the Big 12 who gave me this valuable piece of advice regarding Big 12 expansion: Stop trying to apply logic to decisions that will ultimately be made primarily on the basis of hubris, arrogance and greed. Which pretty much sums up all of conference realignment.


Notwithstanding the fact OU president/expansion advocate David Boren was there to witness it, I have a hard time believing one football game will swing Houston’s chances. As we know, there are many more factors at play here than football success. Otherwise Boise State would be one of the reported 11 schools that made the Big 12’s first cut while Tulane and SMU would not. But more to the point, those presidents that already backed Houston don’t need to be convinced of its long-term potential, and those leery of the Cougars essentially becoming too good did not need them to beat Oklahoma to confirm those fears.


What it does do is this: Should the conference actually expand – I currently put it at 60-40, but I know others are even more skeptical – then either it has to include Houston or look like a bunch of cowards if they don’t. The Big 12 is going to get its TV money no matter who it adds, but the only way expansion adds any value beyond that is if it tangibly improves the conference’s football standing. Of all the contenders, Houston is quite clearly best positioned to do that.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-foo...-at-lsu-090716

Yeah, a #3 OU is a push over... How many times have they crushed UT?

[BlueK]

Dennis, it won't be hard. Let me show you: "BYU has excellent credentials. It was hard to say no to such a class organization. Unfortunately, it just wasn't a good fit. The consensus was against football only. We are building a conference for the ages and our model is the Pac 12's excellence in all sports. For much the same reason, we cannot commit to any member that there will be no Sunday play. Our baseball championship has been on Sundays, for example. We want to showcase our great baseball players with their .400-plus batting averages at the optimum day of the week and time. We need to commit to the day of the week the championship will be played years in advance. There has been discussion of playing our Big 12 football or basketball Title game on Sundays. Also, we decided it was untenable to move our footprint further west. Cincinnati, with its storied basketball reputation and recent successes in football, and strong scientific research programs, is well positioned to pair up with West Virginia as a travel partner and natural rival. Needless to say, Houston has no negatives, spending hundreds of millions of dollars on improvements, its strong research capabilities, and its location right in the center of our footprint."

See Dennis, not hard. What are you going to do about it, cry that bigotry favored Cincinnati and Houston? Blame the LBGT community?

You're getting scared BYU will get in.

[lambdacoug]

Everyone is taking about Houston and their big win over Oklahoma...


http://www.foxsports.com/college-foo...-at-lsu-090716

Yeah, a #3 OU is a push over... How many times have they crushed UT?

I remember a video from shaggybevo that had a little kid running through the nebraska team, which someone had taken and shaded the red to orange and posted as a video of Taysom v UT. For the life of me, I can't find it anymore. It was good.

[lambdacoug]

Swaim's pretty positive about BYU:

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His whole feed is pretty much like that.

[Paperback Writer]

Corn coming home?


http://www.blackheartgoldpants.com/2...-rejoin-big-12

OK, I'll bite. Some of the rational in the Iowa fan's blog for Nebraska rejoining the Big 12 is that the Nebraska would rather play Iowa St. than Iowa. In the modern era, Nebraska is 8-3 against Iowa and 3-2 in Big Ten play. Since Nebraska joined the Big Ten, Nebraska has a better record than Iowa in conference play. While the author cites Nebraska's success against Iowa St., he fails to mention that Iowa has a losing record against Iowa St. since Nebraska has joined the Big Ten.

To bring this back to BYU and Big 12 conference expansion, I think Houston may be out and the charade of interviewing schools is to cover for not inviting Houston. Like you, I'd rather have Houston in the Big 12 because it's another opportunity to attend a BYU game within driving distance. I've never been a fan of West Virginia and don't see why the Big 12 has to add Cincinnati to placate them. But Texas, OU, and everyone else in the Big 12 cannot possibly want Houston in the conference. Everyone recruits the Houston metro area and Houston doesn't add a TV market that the Big 12 doesn't already own for the most part.

[Crockett]

I remember a video from shaggybevo that had a little kid running through the nebraska team, which someone had taken and shaded the red to orange and posted as a video of Taysom v UT. For the life of me, I can't find it anymore. It was good.

ur welcome

[lambdacoug]

ur welcome

Just as funny as I remember it. Thanks!

[Uncle Ted]

To bring this back to BYU and Big 12 conference expansion, I think Houston may be out and the charade of interviewing schools is to cover for not inviting Houston. Like you, I'd rather have Houston in the Big 12 because it's another opportunity to attend a BYU game within driving distance. I've never been a fan of West Virginia and don't see why the Big 12 has to add Cincinnati to placate them. But Texas, OU, and everyone else in the Big 12 cannot possibly want Houston in the conference. Everyone recruits the Houston metro area and Houston doesn't add a TV market that the Big 12 doesn't already own for the most part.

A large reason Houston is one of the top possibilities has to do with friends in high places...

The mingling of politics and football is as Texan as Frito pie. Twenty years ago, Baylor had the support of a friend in a high place — the former governor Ann Richards, a Baylor graduate — when it and Texas Tech got into the Big 12 ahead of Houston and T.C.U. Similarly, when Texas A&M left the Big 12 for the richer Southeastern Conference before the 2012 season, it had the implied blessing of the governor at the time, Rick Perry, a proud Aggie.


So it seemed auspicious when Texas’ current governor and lieutenant governor — as well as the University of Texas’ top two officials — all tweeted messages in favor of Houston’s membership in the Big 12 on the same Thursday in July. There is even talk that Texas Tech’s support for Houston’s bid was aided by Houston’s backing of a Texas Tech veterinary school to rival the one at Texas A&M. (It was perhaps inevitable that horse-trading in Texas eventually would involve actual horses.)


The university has the backing of a political action committee that has reportedly donated nearly $1 million to Texas politicians since 2012 in advocacy of the university’s agenda — which includes Big 12 membership.


“You could say politics would have nothing to do with that,” said Welcome Wilson Sr., the PAC’s chairman, “but in my experience over a lifetime, it has everything to do with that.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/09/sp...g-12.html?_r=0

Maybe RMoney could donate to a few choice PACs on the behalf of BYU?

[lambdacoug]

A large reason Houston is one of the top possibilities has to do with friends in high places...


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/09/sp...g-12.html?_r=0

Maybe RMoney could donate to a few choice PACs on the behalf of BYU?

With a name like Welcome Wilson, we're screwed! I don't think Peter Priesthood is even real...

[Moliere]

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