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The so-called hateful policies & practices of the Church in practice led to that kid being "universally loved," as you said. But maybe that's just an anecdote.Originally posted by lambdacoug View PostSo it's ok for someone to say they don't think the policies are hateful, but not so ok to point out that that has no bearing on whether they actually are hateful?
Yeah, it's an anecdote, but one that hit close to home and was a big deal in the local stake as he was a universally loved kid of a well known family.
The gay rights movement has been very effective in achieving their goals by framing the issue in terms of "civil rights" & "hate", so that any differing viewpoint is dismissed as hate even though it's not.
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Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
Dig your own grave, and save!
"The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American
"I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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3 of my five siblings, and my parents all pray for the day when gay marriage will be permitted in the temple. Another has cut off the family as he has become, despite being the only son not to serve a mission, an Opus Dei LDS member and a mysoginistic bigot with literally a child's understanding of the LDS doctrine (his traits, not the church's). The other has left the church but is an ardent supporter of church members as am I.Originally posted by Bo Diddley View PostI'm pretty moderate as well, even liberal from some people's perspective. But I wonder how many like minded people will be alienated by the LGBT community when they try to play politics with their football team. I'm pretty ticked. I'll likely calm down and put this in perspective later, but for now I'm ready to fight."Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault
"Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors
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Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
Dig your own grave, and save!
"The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American
"I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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In other words: Having these LBGTQ groups pat me on the back doesn't put the delicious Triscuit cracker in my stomach, now, does it, Carl?Originally posted by falafel View Post"I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"
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I sure hope the penguin tells Bowlsby to add us.Originally posted by Commando View PostIn other words: Having these LBGTQ groups pat me on the back doesn't put the delicious Triscuit cracker in my stomach, now, does it, Carl?"Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault
"Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors
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Yeah - I think this would get much more run in the PAC. In the BigXII, in some ways it's a bit of a meh. Not necessarily something to be ignored, of course. But not a deal breaker by itself.Originally posted by Sleeping in EQ View PostNo administrator likes agitators trying to make decisions for them.
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I hope so, but we don't know that.Originally posted by Eddie View PostYeah - I think this would get much more run in the PAC. In the BigXII, in some ways it's a bit of a meh. Not necessarily something to be ignored, of course. But not a deal breaker by itself.Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats.
- Howard Aiken
Any sufficiently complicated platform contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of half of a functional programming language.
- Variation on Greenspun's Tenth Rule
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