The PAC 10 expansion groundswell

[SeattleUte]

yeah this is pretty amazing tbh

You're all selling Colorado way short. It's in the 16th ranked market in America. The town is sports crazy. Huge school. Top shelf academics. Won a national title in the nineties. Colorado's potential is unlimited. I think it's a great get, better than Nebraska in my opinion.

Also, you don't get the model or paradigm. You can't separate what Colorado brings into the conference. It's a symbiotic relationship. That's why the schools share the pain and the gain.

Colorado has had a few rough years on the gridiron. That means nothing.

[Blueintheface]

As a side note, there have always been plans to increase the size of RES. Specifically to rebuild the south end and fill in the corners. This will probably just accelerate the time frame, much like the Olympics accelerated the time frame of knocking down Rice and building RES.

The plans were to increase it to 60k. From what I'm hearing, the request is to go to 65k (+20k).

Lol. Make sure it has just one more seat than LES. Be sure to get the art dept working around the clock creating 15K stadium dummies as well. And it's high def so make them lifelike.

[Blueintheface]

You're all selling Colorado way short. It's in the 16th ranked market in America. The town is sports crazy. Huge school. Top shelf academics. Won a national title in the nineties. Colorado's potential is unlimited. I think it's a great get, better than Nebraska in my opinion.

Also, you don't get the model or paradigm. You can't separate what Colorado brings into the conference. It's a symbiotic relationship. That's why the schools share the pain and the gain.

Colorado has had a few rough years on the gridiron. That means nothing.

To quote the great tumbleweed SU: 'Do you make this stuff up as you go?'

[CJF]

You're all selling Colorado way short. It's in the 16th ranked market in America. The town is sports crazy. Huge school. Top shelf academics. Won a national title in the nineties. Colorado's potential is unlimited. I think it's a great get, better than Nebraska in my opinion.

Also, you don't get the model or paradigm. You can't separate what Colorado brings into the conference. It's a symbiotic relationship. That's why the schools share the pain and the gain.

Colorado has had a few rough years on the gridiron. That means nothing.

Ok, now you're trolling. Utah is a much much much better get than Colorado. And if I'm Utah, I'm asking for the same cash flow that CU is getting. It would only be fair.

[CJF]

If I were a PAC 10 president I would be incensed with Scott at this. Not only did they strike out with the Texas schools but they now have to cover CU's debts and help them limp into the conference? It's possible that CU costs the PAC 10 more money in the first five years of membership than it will bring in.

SU was right about one thing. Scott is going to look bad when this whole thing is over.

[Flystripper]

You're all selling Colorado way short. It's in the 16th ranked market in America. The town is sports crazy. Huge school. Top shelf academics. Won a national title in the nineties. Colorado's potential is unlimited. I think it's a great get, better than Nebraska in my opinion.

Also, you don't get the model or paradigm. You can't separate what Colorado brings into the conference. It's a symbiotic relationship. That's why the schools share the pain and the gain.

Colorado has had a few rough years on the gridiron. That means nothing.

Colorado is a good school and Denver is a good TV market. I get it. I promise. All that being said, I can't imagine that the the PAC 10 schools are too happy about CU's financial problems. You have to spend money to make money though.

I do wonder what kind of ratings CU pulls in the Denver market. If they get into the PAC 10 early in order to prove their ratings for the new TV deal not only will the PAC 10 have to foot a larger bill for the CU's penalty, but CU will actually have to deliver ratings. Something that I am not sure that they will do.

[SeattleUte]

Colorado is a good school and Denver is a good TV market. I get it. I promise. All that being said, I can't imagine that the the PAC 10 schools are too happy about CU's financial problems. You have to spend money to make money though.

I do wonder what kind of ratings CU pulls in the Denver market though. If they get into the PAC 10 early in order to prove their ratings for the new TV deal not only will the PAC 10 have to foot a larger bill for the CU's penalty, but CU will actually have to deliver ratings. Something that I am not sure that they will do.

I'm sure Scott didn't get ahead of his authority. They all agreed to it.

CU is a national school and has been for some time. If they win, they will get plenty of eyeballs.

[pellegrino]

You're all selling Colorado way short. It's in the 16th ranked market in America. The town is sports crazy. Huge school. Top shelf academics. Won a national title in the nineties. Colorado's potential is unlimited. I think it's a great get, better than Nebraska in my opinion.

Also, you don't get the model or paradigm. You can't separate what Colorado brings into the conference. It's a symbiotic relationship. That's why the schools share the pain and the gain.

Colorado has had a few rough years on the gridiron. That means nothing.

That CU has potential is undoubtedly true, that still wouldn't make me any happier about inviting a school whose AD is currently in shambles, has done nothing on the field in any sport in over a decade and does not offer a dominating presence in its own market. Were I a president, I would be furious that my school has to dig into our own pockets for a school that will likely give nothing back to the conference during my tenure.

[MartyFunkhouser]

Very poor trolling attempt. That is like saying BYU would be an underdog if they played Duke, just because Duke is in a BCS conference.

You might be officially running out of material.

Still a better trolling attempt than saying that you would rather stay in the MWC than move to the PAC-10 and that BYU is in the better position if this all goes down.

[SeattleUte]

Ok, now you're trolling. Utah is a much much much better get than Colorado. And if I'm Utah, I'm asking for the same cash flow that CU is getting. It would only be fair.

Colorado is an AAU school and the college is ranked 77 on US News. I believe its med school is also ranked higher than Utah's. Maybe Utah is better by some measures (they are both huge and diverse) but Utah is hardly "much much much better". Colorado also has some Big 8/12 championships and major bowls. It has several top 5 football finishes. CU's market is no. 16 and Utah's is no. 31.

[pellegrino]

I'm sure Scott didn't get ahead of his authority. They all agreed to it.

CU is a national school and has been for some time. If they win, they will get plenty of eyeballs.

they won't win, not for a long while. Hawkins is a joke, the program is in equal to worse condition it was when he was brought in and I don't think they will get the athletes they need to compete for a long time, which is why I say they will cost the PAC 10 more than they bring in for at least five years.

[CJF]

Colorado is an AAU school and the college is ranked 77 on US News. I believe its med school is also ranked higher than Utah's. Maybe Utah is better by some measures (they are both huge and diverse) but Utah is hardly "much much much better". Colorado also has some Big 8/12 championships and major bowls. It has several top 5 football finishes.

Ok, you're right. Utah is only marginally better than the train wreck that is CU and their athletic department.

[Blueintheface]

Colorado is an AAU school and the college is ranked 77 on US News. I believe its med school is also ranked higher than Utah's. Maybe Utah is better by some measures (they are both huge and diverse) but Utah is hardly "much much much better". Colorado also has some Big 8/12 championships and major bowls. It has several top 5 football finishes.

So Utah's current athletic success shouldn't be relevant to Colorado's pre-Cuban missle crisis success? I don't get that argument at all. Far be it from me to defend Utah but it's exactly what Utah has done in the past half decade that has put it in the position it is in now. Colorado is a boobie prize in all of this and you know it. It doesn't diminish Utah's role and the big step that it's taking but don't try to pimp your '72 pinto and expect me to win at Indy.

[LA Ute]

It appears that my posting here over the last week has offended some Utah Fans. If so, I sincerely apologize. That wasn't my intent. I was having fun, responding to other Utah Fans (one in particular whose initials are S&U). My effort was to try to link what seemed to be legitimate reporting. Most of it was not favorable to Utah's Pac-10 aspirations at first, but I did not shy away from linking the hopeful reports as well, especially as things turned Utah's way. I honestly was just having fun.

You are one sick puppy. (Seriously, this is fun. I don't mind your article at all. Were our positions reversed, I hope I would be doing the same thing, and with the same good humor. You are a good man, MBN.)

The more recent links to unfavorable opinions from your future Pac-10 destinations have been for similar reasons. Frankly, that's the primary message that is out there. No one needs to read them if they find them disturbing or upsetting. Hence, I don't feel inclined to stop linking articles that I think many will find interesting or informative.

Disturbed? Upset? Pshaw.

I try to be consistent in this forum and other related forums. I don't take one approach here and quite a different approach elsewhere. Perhaps that is my error.

I see no error whatsoever. Keep 'em coming.

My sincere wishes of good tidings on this huge moment for you and other Utah Fans.

I'm going to bed.

Thank you, and good night.

[ERCougar]

You're all selling Colorado way short. It's in the 16th ranked market in America. The town is sports crazy. Huge school. Top shelf academics. Won a national title in the nineties. Colorado's potential is unlimited. I think it's a great get, better than Nebraska in my opinion.

Also, you don't get the model or paradigm. You can't separate what Colorado brings into the conference. It's a symbiotic relationship. That's why the schools share the pain and the gain.

Colorado has had a few rough years on the gridiron. That means nothing.

I agree. Everyone needs to lay off Colorado. If there's a common theme to all of the P10 members/fans' complaints about this, it's not about adding Colorado...