"You Gotta Love It Baby" Official Jazz thread

[Color Me Badd Fan]

He hasn't been great but the alternative is Fat Felton. Of course OKC is better off with Westbrook playing.

Fat Felton probably has a better +/-

[Commando]

Man I like Westbrook but he plays like a madman. Billy Donovan clearly has no control over the star of the team, or else he would have made sure he didn't spend all game trying to "shut that shit down" chasing Ricky Rubio around all game while Donovan Mitchell and Joe Ingles wore out the net. I mean- I'm not even knowledgeable about the game of basketball and I saw that one coming a mile away. I think I even called it 2 days ago in this thread. SU-wish! (is that how it goes?)

No disrespect to Mr. Westbrook, but the reason Ricky had his way was because everybody was focused on offensive threat #1 the whole game. Go ahead and shift your defensive focus to Ricky Rubio and let Mitchell fire at will. Great plan! :thumbsup: He probably won't break the franchise assist record tonight.

[falafel]

Man I like Westbrook but he plays like a madman. Billy Donovan clearly has no control over the star of the team, or else he would have made sure he didn't spend all game trying to "shut that shit down" chasing Ricky Rubio around all game while Donovan Mitchell and Joe Ingles wore out the net. I mean- I'm not even knowledgeable about the game of basketball and I saw that one coming a mile away. I think I even called it 2 days ago in this thread. SU-wish! (is that how it goes?)

Post-game press conference with Russ was pretty fun.

[creekster]

that really is a tough question. Simmons ceiling somewhere between Magic and LeBron if he can learn to shoot - and tbh, his shot doesn't look broken. LeBron is the 2nd or 3rd best player in NBA history, Magic is the 10th or so best player. Unless i'm forgetting somebody, I don't think there is a small guard in between.

having said that, that is still a fairly big IF. Mitchell is already there, just has to improve in a few minor aspects. improve his 3pt accuracy and his ability to get to the line. he does those things, the sky is the limit if he can stay healthy.

I have to be honest that in basketball terms, I think Simmons is the better player and prospect right now. But if I am drafting for Utah, I pick DM, no question. He fits the system, he is a great face for the franchise, everyone loves him, even other players and fans, and he at least allows me to think that he might stick around in Utah for the long haul. Simmons, OTOH, is surly, self-absorbed and seems like the sort of guy who would catch the first train out of Utah that he could. For the Jazz franchise, DM is a Great fit.

[Sizzle]

Fat Felton probably has a better +/-

Yes, because the majority of his minutes have come against Dante Exum.

[Sizzle]

that really is a tough question. Simmons ceiling somewhere between Magic and LeBron if he can learn to shoot - and tbh, his shot doesn't look broken. LeBron is the 2nd or 3rd best player in NBA history, Magic is the 10th or so best player. Unless i'm forgetting somebody, I don't think there is a small guard in between.

having said that, that is still a fairly big IF. Mitchell is already there, just has to improve in a few minor aspects. improve his 3pt accuracy and his ability to get to the line. he does those things, the sky is the limit if he can stay healthy.

If Simmons range is somewhere between Magic and LeBron then DM's ceiling is somewhere between MJ and DWade (hey, he scored more points in his first two playoff games than Jordan). So it's probably somewhere between the 1st best player of all-time and the 20th best player of all-time (is that where you'd slot Wade?)

I think you're overvaluing Simmons (like I'm vastly overvaluing DM in the above example). I don't think Simmons is quite that good. And I'm not a Simmons hater. FWIW, I think Jason Kidd is probably a better Simmons comp. Which, any team in the NBA would easily welcome the next Jason Kidd, hands down.

With that, both are having great rookie seasons. And honestly, I think both Utah and Philly are happy to have who they've got and they should both be really, really good for a long time.

[smokymountainrain]

If Simmons range is somewhere between Magic and LeBron then DM's ceiling is somewhere between MJ and DWade (hey, he scored more points in his first two playoff games than Jordan). So it's probably somewhere between the 1st best player of all-time and the 20th best player of all-time (is that where you'd slot Wade?)

I think you're overvaluing Simmons (like I'm vastly overvaluing DM in the above example). I don't think Simmons is quite that good. And I'm not a Simmons hater. FWIW, I think Jason Kidd is probably a better Simmons comp. Which, any team in the NBA would easily welcome the next Jason Kidd, hands down.

With that, both are having great rookie seasons. And honestly, I think both Utah and Philly are happy to have who they've got and they should both be really, really good for a long time.

Now if you read my post, unless you ignore the most important part, i didn't say Simmons range is between Lebron and Magic.

[Babs]

Wait. She's a lawyer now, right? Depositions.

That's funny.

[MartyFunkhouser]

Kevin Durant on the Jazz

We got our asses kicked by them twice . . . I don’t look at (their success) as a surprise. Not saying that OKC is bad, or worse, but I know from personal experience how good that Utah team is.

https://warriorswire.usatoday.com/2018/04/24/kevin-durant-not-surprised-utah-jazz-playoff-success/

[Babs]

What happened to Babs? Where did she go?

Babs moved onto spring football after she saw Westbrook's post-game-3 interview and realized psycho-Russ would be joining the lineup.

[Flystripper]

Welcome back! I hope your depositions went well!

[Pelado]

Babs moved onto spring football after she saw Westbrook's post-game-3 interview and realized psycho-Russ would be joining the lineup.

How's spring football treating you?

[Babs]

Welcome back! I hope your depositions went well!

How's spring football treating you?

Fabulous. Undefeated on both counts.

[old_gregg]

watching in a place where the okc tv crew is the only option. hilarious how godawful these nerds are.

[Babs]

watching in a place where the okc tv crew is the only option.

Hell?