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  • Maximus
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 6005

    #11326
    CHicago isnt bringing back krover, i say get him.

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    • Blueintheface
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 15382

      #11327
      Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
      Locke says Burks is going to spend summer league playing point.
      Adapt or die I guess. His greatest asset is his aggressiveness so improving his handles and court awareness should be a good thing. I doubt that when the season rolls around we see him running the offense but he needs to be more situationally aware.

      On a related note, I thought it was interesting to hear this morning that Earl Watson and Mo Williams have the same agent. Might be yet another dynamic of this whole trade situation.
      "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

      "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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      • BGRTHNUMEGO
        Junior Member
        • May 2010
        • 3670

        #11328
        Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
        Locke says Burks is going to spend summer league playing point.
        Yes please.

        I'm surprised teams don't do this more frequently. They've got back-up PGs like Derek Fisher and Earl Watson who are huge defensive liabilities, offer little on the offensive end, but who have long careers because they can bring the ball up the court I guess. Why not see if you've got another guy who can initiate the offense, but also presents other strengths? Even if Burks can't stay in front of Derrick Rose or John Wall, neither can Fisher or Watson.

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        • BGRTHNUMEGO
          Junior Member
          • May 2010
          • 3670

          #11329
          Originally posted by Maximus View Post
          CHicago isnt bringing back krover, i say get him.
          Is that official? Did they waive Brewer as well? I thought I read that both of those players had only partially guaranteed final years on their deals and so Chicago was considering waiving both of them.

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          • Donuthole
            Official Outgayer
            • Nov 2008
            • 25230

            #11330
            So it's official. Are we all just a bit too depressed to discuss it? Not sure how we end up taking back the worst contract in the deal and not either giving up a bad contract of our own (cough, Raja, cough) or getting a future draft pick as compensation.

            Nice work, KOC.
            Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

            There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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            • San Juan Sun
              Kicked to the curb
              • Dec 2009
              • 9214

              #11331
              Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
              So it's official. Are we all just a bit too depressed to discuss it? Not sure how we end up taking back the worst contract in the deal and not either giving up a bad contract of our own (cough, Raja, cough) or getting a future draft pick as compensation.

              Nice work, KOC.
              I'm not depressed. Although this does very little to elevate the Jazz in the Western Conference this year, they get Williams for free for a year. Since he's free (as far as the cap is concerned) I don't mind not gaining other assets or casting off albatrosses (Bell).

              And then, the Jazz end up with tons of cap space, a solid young core, and whatever assets they accrue from disposing if Jefferson and/or Milsap. The 2013-14 Jazz have the potential (if KOC plays it right) to be a very solid franchise.
              "Sure, I fought. I had to fight all my life just to survive. They were all against me. Tried every dirty trick to cut me down, but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch."

              - Ty Cobb

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              • Blueintheface
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 15382

                #11332
                I'm ok with it. I have to agree with MG and say it's better than not using it (TE).
                "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                • BGRTHNUMEGO
                  Junior Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 3670

                  #11333
                  Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                  So it's official. Are we all just a bit too depressed to discuss it? Not sure how we end up taking back the worst contract in the deal and not either giving up a bad contract of our own (cough, Raja, cough) or getting a future draft pick as compensation.

                  Nice work, KOC.
                  Hollinger says the Jazz got Williams "for free". His positive spin to me is really odd, because he has loved killing Williams for the past 3 years for his shot selection and horrible defense.

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                  • BGRTHNUMEGO
                    Junior Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 3670

                    #11334
                    Jazz pick up options on Carroll and Tinsley. Now have 4 point guards on the roster. Say plans are to let Harris and Williams play together quite a bit to increase depth on the perimeter. Over the cap, not in tax territory yet, could use part of MLE if a free agent works out. (summary from Smith of DesNews)

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                    • Maximus
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 6005

                      #11335
                      Originally posted by BGRTHNUMEGO View Post
                      Jazz pick up options on Carroll and Tinsley. Now have 4 point guards on the roster. Say plans are to let Harris and Williams play together quite a bit to increase depth on the perimeter. Over the cap, not in tax territory yet, could use part of MLE if a free agent works out. (summary from Smith of DesNews)
                      milsap or jefferson better be traded by season start.

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                      • TripletDaddy
                        sweet triple
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 58186

                        #11336
                        Why be depressed? You should be laughing.

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                        • Blueintheface
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 15382

                          #11337
                          Originally posted by BGRTHNUMEGO View Post
                          Jazz pick up options on Carroll and Tinsley. Now have 4 point guards on the roster. Say plans are to let Harris and Williams play together quite a bit to increase depth on the perimeter. Over the cap, not in tax territory yet, could use part of MLE if a free agent works out. (summary from Smith of DesNews)
                          Carroll turned 5 min of garbage time overachievement into an extension. Good for him.
                          "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                          "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                          • Maximus
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 6005

                            #11338
                            calderon going to be amnestied. I would much rather have him.

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                            • The_Douger
                              Athletic Supporter
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 5413

                              #11339
                              The whole "we need at least 3 PGs is so overplayed in Utah.

                              You need two and a combo guard that could step in, should there be an emergency. At this point you hope Burks can be that guy, and so you just need Harris and Mo Williams. I see no need for any of those other guys.
                              Will donate kidney for B12 membership.

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                              • Maximus
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 6005

                                #11340
                                Originally posted by The_Douger View Post
                                The whole "we need at least 3 PGs is so overplayed in Utah.

                                You need two and a combo guard that could step in, should there be an emergency. At this point you hope Burks can be that guy, and so you just need Harris and Mo Williams. I see no need for any of those other guys.
                                besides the fact that they can find plenty of d league guys that are just as good as tinsley at a moments notice.

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