"You Gotta Love It Baby" Official Jazz thread

[CJF]

Various iterations of a rumor going around, but gist is that Deron and Miller Jr. got in a near altercation the night of the Sloan incident.

This franchise is full of more drama than daytime TV.

What happened to the theory that management supported the player and that's what drove Sloan out?

[MarkGrace]

What happened to the theory that management supported the player and that's what drove Sloan out?

More theories than I can track at this point.

[Blueintheface]

Enough drama, I'm off to see a real basketball team play.

(Although I have a feeling that if I don't keep my Droid handy I'll miss out on early notification that one of the 11 PF/C on this team got traded tonight)

[old_gregg]

Various iterations of a rumor going around, but gist is that Deron and Miller Jr. got in a near altercation the night of the Sloan incident.

This franchise is full of more drama than daytime TV.

if that's the truth, respect to greg.

[smokymountainrain]

Millsap for K Martin is the most intriguing deal, IMO. If Houston would be willing make that deal, you do it in a heartbeat.

As far as the trade - worst case scenario, Favors and two lottery picks don't pan out - they traded a top 3 PG for a top 10 PG. That isn't a terrible worst case scenario. If Favors realizes his potential, this is a huge win for the Jazz and they should be able to get at least one of the lottery picks to work out.

I think this is a trade the Jazz couldn't turn down, IMO. Martin has to be their #1 target at this point.

[Maximus]

According to ESPN insider, Minn. offered flynn for Raja Bell. If they did, we better take it.

[LiveCoug]

Would you take Jonny Flynn for Raja Bell?

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/cat...-trade-reports

[old_gregg]

i am really going to miss sloan:

"I have no reaction to what the Jazz are doing. We wish him well," Sloan said of Williams. "We wish the Jazz well. Good luck to Deron."

Sloan then said he had to "go rake some leaves right now."

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/n...ory?id=6150419

[Sizzle]

According to ESPN insider, Minn. offered flynn for Raja Bell. If they did, we better take it.

As part of a Johnny Flynn deal. Straight up, yes, I make that trade. But no, I don't give up extra picks for Flynn.

[MarkGrace]

In the end, Greg Miller said Wednesday, he went with his gut.

The owner of the Utah Jazz said in a telephone interview that he decided to OK the trade of All-Star guard Deron Williams to the New Jersey Nets because of his increasing belief that the Jazz could be caught empty-handed in the summer of 2012 if Williams decided not to re-sign in Utah, as other teams have found themselves in the past year.

“The concern that we as a franchise have had all along is if you look at what happened with LeBron James in Cleveland, and Amar’e Stoudemire in Phoenix, and Chris Bosh in Toronto, there seems to be a trend developing where those marquee players get away,” Miller said. “In the case of those three teams there was very little at the end to show for it. I was very concerned that the same thing would happen to us if Deron left.”

Utah traded Williams on Wednesday to the Nets for rookie forward Derrick Favors and point guard Devin Harris, and two first-round picks. One of the picks is New Jersey’s unprotected first-rounder next year; the other is a 2012 first-round pick originally acquired from the Golden State Warriors. The pick is protected through the first six picks of the Draft in 2012 and 2013, and through the top seven picks in 2014. That means that the pick will go to Utah if the Warriors do not finish with one of the six worst records in the league in 2012 or 2013, or one of the seven worst in 2014. If none of those scenarios occurs the first-round pick turns into second-round picks in 2014 and 2016.

Miller said he and general manager Kevin O’Connor had conversations over the past few months both with Williams and his representatives, and that Williams was non-committal about his future every time. He didn’t say he was definitely leaving, but he didn’t say he was definitely staying, either. And the Jazz were increasingly worried that Williams would walk.

“At the end of the day, I never heard him say he was going to stay or go,” Miller said. “Just going with my gut, I just felt like he would likely be moving on. The opportunity to make this trade caught us by surprise when NJ called (Tuesday) and asked if we’d be interested in doing the deal. Kevin called me yesterday afternoon … we decided this would be a great opporunity for the Utah Jazz to preserve the value of Deron Williams by trading for these four, essentially, first round picks, and control our destiny, which I wasn’t sure we would be able to do with Deron.”

Miller said he called Williams personally to tell him about the trade.

“As far as I know it was the first he heard of it,” Miller said. “He just said, ‘All right, I appreciate it.’”

Miller said he didn’t have an ”overt” conversation with Williams about his future this year, but didn’t get the sense that Williams would make a commitment going forward.

“I think we’ve done everything we can to make him feel welcome and respected,” Miller said. “Our hope would obviously be to keep our marquee player. But absent strong feelings that that feeling was reciprocal, we had to gamble … there’s just so much uncertainty out there with so many things. But we just felt with all the uncertainty and ambiguity out there this was the best way to control our destiny. It was a way for us to preserve the value. Rather than just let Deron get away from us and have nothing to show for it, it gave us some assets to work with, some resources to work with going forward.”

The Jazz had liked Favors before the draft but couldn’t figure out a way to move up to take him, and he was selected third by New Jersey. Harris has a chance to resucitate his career in Salt Lake City after falling out of favor with the Nets. The constant trade speculation involving him as the Nets tried to make a deal for Carmelo Anthony also affected his play.

Asked several times if Williams had prompted the Jazz to move him with any kind of objectionable behavior, Miller said no. Local media in Salt Lake City said after Jerry Sloan‘s sudden resignation earlier this month that one of the key factors in Sloan’s decision was a deteriorating relationship with Williams. The two had several verbal confrontations, including one Feb. 9, the night Sloan decided to retire. After thinking about it overnight, Sloan announced his retirement the following day.

http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2011/0...elings-d-will/

[Sizzle]

As part of a Johnny Flynn deal. Straight up, yes, I make that trade. But no, I don't give up extra picks for Flynn.

Rumor is the deal is Bell and Price for Flynn and a 2nd? If the Jazz DON'T pull the trigger on that deal... yikes.

Also rumors about the Jazz moving AK and Fes to Houston essentially for Yao and Jordan Hill.

Also word Jazz are looking to move Memo very aggressively, if they can't find any takers they may buy him out, allegedly.

Jazz could not just be blowing the team up, they could be dropping an atomic bomb on the team.

[UteStar]

Rumor is the deal is Bell and Price for Flynn and a 2nd? If the Jazz DON'T pull the trigger on that deal... yikes.

Also rumors about the Jazz moving AK and Fes to Houston essentially for Yao and Jordan Hill.

Also word Jazz are looking to move Memo very aggressively, if they can't find any takers they may buy him out, allegedly.

Jazz could not just be blowing the team up, they could be dropping an atomic bomb on the team.

I am not a big fan of Flynn, but I would shed Bell's contract happily. I would do that deal.

AK and Fes for Yao and Hill. I like Hill but they are shedding a huge contract for an equally huge contract. i don't see how this deal does much of anything except getting Hill for Fes.

Trading Memo would be great...but does anyone see that happening. Buying him out...interesting.

I still like a deal to get Kevin martin. How they do it, I don't know. Jefferson or Milsap for him would be really interesting. KOC sounds like he is actively looking for trades right now. Lets see what happens.

[Mormon Red Death]

anyway the jazz could get the rights to rubio? he would work out well in Utah.

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[Donuthole]

anyway the jazz could get the rights to rubio? he would work out well in Utah.

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Rubio sucks, fyi. He has regressed significantly since the 08 games and since he was drafted.

[Sizzle]

Rubio sucks, fyi. He has regressed significantly since the 08 games and since he was drafted.

Isn't he shooting like 30% from the field this year? Yikes...