"You Gotta Love It Baby" Official Jazz thread

[smokymountainrain]

Yes, and I would hope that's the only consideration for the Jazz. I think People go to games when a team wins, and that's about the end of story. That's why I always found the Cougarboard arguments about Jimmer on the Jazz to be silly; there's short-term interest in a novelty, but it doesn't sustain. So to me whichever one you think you can build the best team is the one you go with, period. Mine was just a question about which type of player you think you can build a better team around.

FIFY. No reason to sugarcoat it.

People go to games, they watch games and they buy merchandise for winning teams. Period.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

Yes, and I would hope that's the only consideration for the Jazz. I think people go to games when a team wins, and that's about the end of story. That's why I always found the Cougarboard arguments about Jimmer on the Jazz to be silly; there's short-term interest in a novelty, but it doesn't sustain. So to me whichever one you think you can build the best team is the one you go with, period. Mine was just a question about which type of player you think you can build a better team around.

I tend to agree, but as we start to get excited for consecutive seasons about our lottery location, move on from saying Favors is an All-Star being held down by coaching/Al Jefferson's minutes, lament past chances to pick a new savior, I think that the Jazz might be considering the economics. Does Jabari alienate a growing non-LDS population, is Wiggins less likely to resign with Utah if he's as good as advertised.

I've been told a bunch of times I'm an idiot though, enough that I start to believe it.

[smokymountainrain]

I tend to agree, but as we start to get excited for consecutive seasons about our lottery location, move on from saying Favors is an All-Star being held down by coaching/Al Jefferson's minutes, lament past chances to pick a new savior, I think that the Jazz might be considering the economics. Does Jabari alienate a growing non-LDS population, is Wiggins less likely to resign with Utah if he's as good as advertised.

I've been told a bunch of times I'm an idiot though, enough that I start to believe it.

I think that's an important question. If Jabari is more likely to stay in Utah, all other things being equal as Grace's question asks, you could lean toward Jabari just for that reason.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

FIFY. No reason to sugarcoat it.

People go to games, they watch games and they buy merchandise for winning teams. Period.

You should tell all the people that made Tebow a top 10 jersey with the Jets, but a team in New York probably need revenue more than the Jazz.

[smokymountainrain]

You should tell all the people that made Tebow a top 10 jersey with the Jets, but a team in New York probably need revenue more than the Jazz.

This has already been covered - as Grace put it "there's short-term interest in a novelty, but it doesn't sustain." Sure enough, Tebow jersey sales are nowhere to be found amoung the top jerseys today.

Three of the top six are Seahawks. Once again, winning sells.

[MarkGrace]

I tend to agree, but as we start to get excited for consecutive seasons about our lottery location, move on from saying Favors is an All-Star being held down by coaching/Al Jefferson's minutes, lament past chances to pick a new savior, I think that the Jazz might be considering the economics.

I would just go to the flip side on that. Losing is losing, and it doesn't matter a ton who's out there losing. I don't think there are significant factors outside win/lose that contribute in any material way to a team's bottom line. I suppose Jabari is unique because we've never seen a lying, deceiving Mormon phenom play for a team located near the Mormon Vatican, but ultimately I think it would play out the way it always does. The more teams win, the more people show up. They more they lose, the more they don't.

Does Jabari alienate a growing non-LDS population, is Wiggins less likely to resign with Utah if he's as good as advertised.

I don't see re-signing as really coming into play. Being able to sign a player you drafted is so much more in the control of the team than player that I tend to not view this as a huge consideration. I guess forcing trades and pouting becomes an issue, but in anything but rares circumstances signability really isn't. If a team drafts a player, they pretty will have control over him for at least the first sizable chunk of his career.

I've been told a bunch of times I'm an idiot though, enough that I start to believe it.

smr called you an idiot, not me.

[smokymountainrain]

I would just go to the flip side on that. Losing is losing, and it doesn't matter a ton who's out there losing. I don't think there are significant factors outside win/lose that contribute in any material way to a team's bottom line. I suppose Jabari is unique because we've never seen a lying, deceiving Mormon phenom plays for a team located near the Mormon Vatican, but ultimately I think it would play out the way it also does. The more teams win, the more people show up. They more they lose, the more they don't.



I don't see re-signing as really coming into play. Being able to sign a player you drafted is so much more in the control of the team than player that I tend to not view this as a huge consideration. I guess forcing trades and pouting becomes an issue, but in anything but rares circumstances signability really isn't. If a team drafts a player, they pretty will have control over him for at least the first sizable chunk of his career.



smr called you an idiot, not me.

STFU!

[MartyFunkhouser]

Article today says Jazz will likely interview more than 20 candidates. Also mentioned that Alex Jensen and Johnnie Bryant will be retained with the team going forward.

Was listening to a podcast last night and it was mentioned that this is the Jazz first true coaching search in its Utah history. Nissalke was the first coach, then was fired by Layden and replaced by Layden himself Popovich style. Sloan was an assistant to Layden and took over, and then of course Corbin was an assistant to Sloan before he got the gig. So that puts them at the first real coaching search ever. Kind of crazy.

Happy to hear that they are retaining Jensen and Bryant, especially Jensen. It is certainly great to have someone who learned from Rick Majerus on the staff.

[MarkGrace]

Received yet another indication that Jim Boylen remains the lead candidate in the Utah Jazz's coaching search.

https://twitter.com/DJJazzyJody

[TripletDaddy]

Jabari as Mo is totally overplayed. He has lived his whole life away from Mos. He eschewed the opportunity in college. Why would he care as a pro? That is a weak factor upon which to hang your hopes.

[Maximus]

https://twitter.com/DJJazzyJody

[Vic Vega]

Jabari as Mo is totally overplayed. He has lived his whole life away from Mos. He eschewed the opportunity in college. Why would he care as a pro? That is a weak factor upon which to hang your hopes.

Jabari as a shrewd businessman is also underplayed. He will be in Chicago, LA, or New York after his rookie contract is done at the latest.

[BGRTHNUMEGO]

Wisdom from Kyle Korver:

"There are very, very few teams who just win because they have the best talent," Korver said. "The good teams in the NBA have great systems. Even Miami has a great system, even though they also have great players. When you have a great system, you can go get players who fit the system," Korver said. "Everybody in the NBA can play, but until you get the right opportunity and the right fit, it doesn't really work."

Lindsey's got an important decision to make.

[LiveCoug]

Wisdom from Kyle Korver:



Lindsey's got an important decision to make.

Ain't nothing stopping this system!

[MarkGrace]

There was an interview with Messina the other day and he expressed interest in coaching the Jazz. At least according to google translator he did!

Also rumors that Thibs and Chicago could very well part ways.