Boylen

[Surfah]

Utah puts a product on the court worth watching and I'll go to the games. Boylen/Giac have destroyed Ute basketball for me. I guess if I was rich, I would consider wasting my money on Ute basketball.

Maybe deserve is the wrong word. Utah can do better than what Boylen is giving us right now.

I think you just made Junkies point.

[TripletDaddy]

Speaking of which was I the only one who didn't know Hostile had a brother who played under Majerus?

Alright Hostile, tell us some stories!

And start with the one of Majerus taking a poo in a towel.

[hostile]

Speaking of which was I the only one who didn't know Hostile had a brother who played under Majerus?

Alright Hostile, tell us some stories!

My little brother walked on his freshman year (1990). He made the gray squad and got in a few games. He was tied for the lead in 3 pt FG% in the country (3/3). I got home from my mission in November of that year. His first comment to me was "I learned more basketball in my first week than I had learned up to that point. I also learned a completely new vocabulary." Utah last in Seattle in the tourney that year. My brother had his arm broken plating in the national rugby championship in the spring and the left on a mission. 2 years later he tried to walk on again but didn't make it.

[SeattleUte]

My little brother walked on his freshman year (1990). He made the gray squad and got in a few games. He was tied for the lead in 3 pt FG% in the country (3/3). I got home from my mission in November of that year. His first comment to me was "I learned more basketball in my first week than I had learned up to that point. I also learned a completely new vocabulary." Utah last in Seattle in the tourney that year. My brother had his arm broken plating in the national rugby championship in the spring and the left on a mission. 2 years later he tried to walk on again but didn't make it.

This is not the first time I've heard from someone who played for Majerus express concern about Boylen. Very credible people area calling this a huge mess. That's what clinches it for me. Who's defending Boylen? Utefans scofflaws and mooches who have eaten free pizzas he's financed. It makes me think BYU fans are right that for many Utes it's all about the beer and the in-game or Ute event parties, not the tradition and the game.

[DU Ute]

This is not the first time I've heard from someone who played for Majerus express concern about Boylen. Very credible people area calling this a huge mess. That's what clinches it for me. Who's defending Boylen? Utefans scofflaws and mooches who have eaten free pizzas he's financed. It makes me think BYU fans are right that for many Utes it's all about the beer and the in-game or Ute event parties, not the tradition and the game.

I never got free pizza from Boylen! Maybe it is because I am more of a ne'er-do-well than a scofflaw.

[Guest]

This is not the first time I've heard from someone who played for Majerus express concern about Boylen. Very credible people area calling this a huge mess. That's what clinches it for me. Who's defending Boylen? Utefans scofflaws and mooches who have eaten free pizzas he's financed. It makes me think BYU fans are right that for many Utes it's all about the beer and the in-game or Ute event parties, not the tradition and the game.

Is there anyone out there defending Boylen at this point? I hope not. The program is completely unrecognizable right now. It's a disaster. I hope he's fired before the season's out.

[SeattleUte]

Is there anyone out there defending Boylen at this point? I hope not. The program is completely unrecognizable right now. It's a disaster. I hope he's fired before the season's out.

Seriously, he made his fate when he kicked his two leading scorers and more off the team last offseason. I said then, right here, that he better know what he's doing, because he's undone three years of work. Of course then he went out and loaded up on JUCOS. Rule of thumb is two JUCOs max on any team. That gave him no room for error.

[Top Ute]

Seriously, he made his fate when he kicked his two leading scorers and more off the team last offseason. I said then, right here, that he better know what he's doing, because he's undone three years of work. Of course then he went out and loaded up on JUCOS. Rule of thumb is two JUCOs max on any team. That gave him no room for error.

Boylen can't reel in players. He couldn't lay down the law with Henderson early, never had Carlon Brown adjust his expectations and gave Tavita too much unjustified PT early. Now I'm not shedding tears over Tavita, but Brown and Henderson should be key parts of this year's team.

I've also heard (albeit second-hand) from another ex-Majerus player -- and a damn good one at that -- that the sense of responsibility and accountability under Boylen is totally absent when it comes to the little things that makes teams winners. Players screw up and nothing happens. Boylen's fate was sealed long before Henderson and Brown left or were kicked off.

[hostile]

Its essentially the Senioritis and Hostile famililes with a few other fans sprinkled in.

You know, we're trying to change that and broaden the fan base. For the AF game my son wanted to take a bunch of friends from school. Since his birthday is around the holidays and it is difficult to schedule a "friend's birthday party" we thought it would be fun. Tickets were easy to get and we sat with my brothers and their boys who are my son's age. We live in Sugarhouse and the elementary school boundary includes the University Village apartments, which is home to many foreign graduate students, some of whose children go to school with my son. His birthday party was a mini-UN with kids from India, South Korea and a Sudanese refugee. All had a great time despite the craptastic play - they know when to boo at the ref and yell when the other team is shooting freethrows. We're winning their hearts and minds (pepperoni pizza and hot dogs help) and spreading Utah basketball worldwide.

[cougjunkie]

You know, we're trying to change that and broaden the fan base. For the AF game my son wanted to take a bunch of friends from school. Since his birthday is around the holidays and it is difficult to schedule a "friend's birthday party" we thought it would be fun. Tickets were easy to get and we sat with my brothers and their boys who are my son's age. We live in Sugarhouse and the elementary school boundary includes the University Village apartments, which is home to many foreign graduate students, some of whose children go to school with my son. His birthday party was a mini-UN with kids from India, South Korea and a Sudanese refugee. All had a great time despite the craptastic play - they know when to boo at the ref and yell when the other team is shooting freethrows. We're winning their hearts and minds (pepperoni pizza and hot dogs help) and spreading Utah basketball worldwide.

Its like the Utes very own missionary program.

[myboynoah]

Its like the Utes very own missionary program.

I went to Utah basketball games as a youth at what was then called the Special Events Center.

[LA Ute]

I went to Utah basketball games as a youth at what was then called the Special Events Center.

And look how you turned out!!!

[myboynoah]

And look how you turned out!!!

I applaud hostile's efforts.

[TripletDaddy]

You know, we're trying to change that and broaden the fan base. For the AF game my son wanted to take a bunch of friends from school. Since his birthday is around the holidays and it is difficult to schedule a "friend's birthday party" we thought it would be fun. Tickets were easy to get and we sat with my brothers and their boys who are my son's age. We live in Sugarhouse and the elementary school boundary includes the University Village apartments, which is home to many foreign graduate students, some of whose children go to school with my son. His birthday party was a mini-UN with kids from India, South Korea and a Sudanese refugee. All had a great time despite the craptastic play - they know when to boo at the ref and yell when the other team is shooting freethrows. We're winning their hearts and minds (pepperoni pizza and hot dogs help) and spreading Utah basketball worldwide.

That sounds like an awesome birthday party for a little dude. Really cool idea. Sure beats hanging out in a basement playing games.

[SeattleUte]

I notice that you have recently been speaking very positively of Lavin. You are truly a student of my posts.

It has absolutely nothing to do with your posts. It has to do with taking over a team that was 81-101 the past six years, making them 13-9 (5-5 Big East) so far in his FIRST YEAR, and this:

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/school/_/id/2599/st-john-red-storm

It has to do with results. Take a look at what Lavin has done in ONE YEAR and tell me we should be patient with this train wreck Boylen has caused in four years.