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[SeattleUte]

Lol.

They sound like they're from cougarboard. And it's not like BYU has even been that good a program outside of Jimmer's last two years, and even then they only made it to Sweet 16.

Maybe these hot shots are signing with Utah because Utah is in the Pac 12. Occam's razor.

[LiveCoug]

Maybe these hot shots are signing with Utah because Utah is in the Pac 12. Occam's razor.

I agree with this, unfortunately. Sad stuff.

[Flystripper]

Same could be said comparing BYU to Arizona.

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Absolutlely. The only way BYU gets kids that have AZ offers is because of the religion.

[CJF]

Absolutlely. The only way BYU gets kids that have AZ offers is because of the religion.

I don't know many reasonable fans who would disagree.

[cougjunkie]

They sound like they're from cougarboard. And it's not like BYU has even been that good a program outside of Jimmer's last two years, and even then they only made it to Sweet 16.

Maybe these hot shots are signing with Utah because Utah is in the Pac 12. Occam's razor.

Exactly. Washington State is pulling in all sorts of top 100 kids just because they are in the PAC.

Jordan Loveridge was the rare kid that went to a bad program with no pressure only the exexpectation in himself that he could be part of the class that turns it around. That decision set the tone for every other local kid including Van Dyke (granted his options were limited) and now Chapman. It wouldn't surprise me if they land Wade, Stutzman (not a utah kid but plays utah AAU down here) and/or Brock Miller. They aren't BYU priorities but they have solid offers I don't see any of them spurning Utah. With that being said they need a lot more Chapmans if they want to compete. The white guys from Utah (which coach k has offered a ton of in fact he had offered about 10 local kids that graduate over the next 3 years) aren't going to win you any Pac12 titles. Nice role players but they need stars to build around. He does have a nice foundation started assuming he can cut down on the attrition.

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[The_Douger]

Lol.

Laugh it up. It really makes no sense to me to go to Utah if you really have an Arizona offer. This kid has grown up seeing Utah do nothing but lose in basketball.

[SeattleUte]

A truly great day for Ute hoops.

--TopUte

[cougjunkie]

Really good get for the Utes. I'm honestly surprised BYU made the top three. I'm sure Dalton Nixon put pressure on him. The Andrus offer now makes more sense. CJ, do you are anyone else on here know who wants Andrus besides BYU?
That Selijaas kid is friends with my nephew. I'm going to ask him if he knows anything.

Andrus is an interesting prospect. He really doesn't fit BYUs system. In fact he reminds me a lot of Jason Washburn and would be serviceable at utah. His only offers are the three big in-state schools. I heard he would be making his decision soon, with the Chapman decision I could see him ending up at Utah. However Dave Rose doesn't lose Utah County kids he really wants. My gut says BYU.
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[cougjunkie]

--TopUte

You landed the top instate recruit is that truly a great day? Kids like Chapman should be gimmes for Utah. How far has that program fallen when the top AA instate kid is being called one of the biggest recruits in team history.


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[Topper]

I still scratch my head about the intelligence of a good recruit choosing Utah over Arizona. Either he is afraid to leave home, or just doesn't understand the basketball landscape. Who would want to play for a bottom dweller in the Pac 12?

[byu71]

I still scratch my head about the intelligence of a good recruit choosing Utah over Arizona. Either he is afraid to leave home, or just doesn't understand the basketball landscape. Who would want to play for a bottom dweller in the Pac 12?

Perhaps there is a tie to the State. Perhaps he wants to have a BYU type experience without having to have the full blown BYU experience (I assume the kid is LDS). You can at least understand how BCS schools feel when they offer a top notch LDS kid and he ends up choosing BYU.

[jay santos]

I still scratch my head about the intelligence of a good recruit choosing Utah over Arizona. Either he is afraid to leave home, or just doesn't understand the basketball landscape. Who would want to play for a bottom dweller in the Pac 12?

If this is rivalry smack, I apologize, because cutting on the U's BB program is never a bad thing to do. However, I don't really get this mentality. I'm more surprised when a recruit chooses the best school chasing him when it's not 100% certain he'll be able to play there. Chapman might be AZ's third highest rated recruit in his class. That means on a roster covering 2-4 years worth of players, he's the 10th or so highest rated recruit on the roster. That's probably a stretch, but I'm just throwing out numbers to make a point. The risk of not cracking a starting lineup or even not doing it early in your career would throw off your future development much more than whatever basketball benefit you would gain playing at AZ vs a program like the U.

[Topper]

Perhaps there is a tie to the State. Perhaps he wants to have a BYU type experience without having to have the full blown BYU experience (I assume the kid is LDS). You can at least understand how BCS schools feel when they offer a top notch LDS kid and he ends up choosing BYU.

Perhaps. But there are very few top BCS schools in football. We don't outrecruit them in basketball, to wit, Jabari Parker.

USC, Oregon, Stanford, Texas, Ohio State, Florida, Alabama.

How often do we steal an LDS recruit from one of those? Extremely infrequently.

But playing for what has been a bottom dweller when you could play for the perennial champions of the league? Really? Some kids don't think very well. Both are state schools; but one has a long term and recent history of excellence. This whole LDS experience thing outside of BYU doesn't make sense.

[Topper]

If this is rivalry smack, I apologize, because cutting on the U's BB program is never a bad thing to do. However, I don't really get this mentality. I'm more surprised when a recruit chooses the best school chasing him when it's not 100% certain he'll be able to play there. Chapman might be AZ's third highest rated recruit in his class. That means on a roster covering 2-4 years worth of players, he's the 10th or so highest rated recruit on the roster. That's probably a stretch, but I'm just throwing out numbers to make a point. The risk of not cracking a starting lineup or even not doing it early in your career would throw off your future development much more than whatever basketball benefit you would gain playing at AZ vs a program like the U.

No, I thought you go to a D1 school to win and to win big. So if Kentucky recruits you, you go and sit the pine, get to meet NBA recruits so you can do their taxes after you graduate from law school.

Gee play well, average 14.0 points per game so you can go to Weber State's nursing school after graduation, doesn't make sense.

[Indy Coug]

Perhaps. But there are very few top BCS schools in football. We don't outrecruit them in basketball, to wit, Jabari Parker.

USC, Oregon, Stanford, Texas, Ohio State, Florida, Alabama.

How often do we steal an LDS recruit from one of those? Extremely infrequently.

But playing for what has been a bottom dweller when you could play for the perennial champions of the league? Really? Some kids don't think very well. Both are state schools; but one has a long term and recent history of excellence. This whole LDS experience thing outside of BYU doesn't make sense.

I can't understand why fans can't understand that recruits don't necessarily use the same calculus they do in determining where is the best place to for them to play.