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  • Goatnapper'96
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 10924

    #121
    Originally posted by Eddie View Post
    Complete meltdown on CB now about how this kid went to Utah because BYU is in the WCC.

    Now - I don't know the kid's reasons. There are plenty of possible ones to pick from. But how is everyone so sure that conference affiliation is it?


    And to be quite frank - I think it would be hilarious if/when BYU ever gets into a "big" conference to then lose a kid to a WCC team - just to see the reactions.
    I am sure that was undoubtedly part of it. But I am pretty convinced that if BYU were still in the MWC he still would have gone to Utah. He chose Utah because of Utah and there is nothing BYU could have done to change that.

    Further, what did most of the stringpullers expect when the jump was announced? Now, lets be clear BYU's recruiting base is unique and I am confident that BYU is not going to drop into the depths of hoop despair but the close rival moved up and BYU has not.....yet.

    I think it would have been nice to have Loveridge, but I think BYU will be fine, perhaps not as fine, but fine nontheless.

    What I am really interested in is what is BYU's next plan for a replacement? I still think it pretty likely that Jordan Chatman comes but there is still a roster slot for someone for next year and perhaps two if somebody else quits.

    I also wonder how the Sharp transfer influenced things. It might have been that BYU just made a trade.
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    • San Juan Sun
      Kicked to the curb
      • Dec 2009
      • 9214

      #122
      Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
      The world revolves around BYU and it absolutely has to do with us. Everything has to do with us. He is an undersized 4 with no outside game. He has inflated stats against weak competition and will be lucky to win 50 games in his 4 years at Utah.

      Eff him.
      See Jacob. Like I said: subtle.
      "Sure, I fought. I had to fight all my life just to survive. They were all against me. Tried every dirty trick to cut me down, but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch."

      - Ty Cobb

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      • MarkGrace
        Grooveshark dick tease
        • Dec 2008
        • 31546

        #123
        Funny to hear that rationale. I can see it with a kid like jabari -- a recruit of that caliber simply isn't going to play in the wcc. But loveridge is basically a wcc caliber recruit. Outside of his wcc offer, he had offers from the wac, the big sky and two doormat mwc programs.
        So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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        • MartyFunkhouser
          Disciple of RNGesus
          • Nov 2008
          • 18747

          #124
          Congrats to Krysto for doing something in your first couple months on the job that Jim Boylen couldn't do in 4 years, beating out Dave Rose for a recruit.
          As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
          --Kendrick Lamar

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          • Flystripper
            Degenerate Gambler
            • Nov 2008
            • 14089

            #125
            Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
            Funny to hear that rationale. I can see it with a kid like jabari -- a recruit of that caliber simply isn't going to play in the wcc. But loveridge is basically a wcc caliber recruit. Outside of his wcc offer, he had offers from the wac, the big sky and two doormat mwc programs.
            so far...he made major improvements in his game last season. If he duplicates that this year more schools will come a calling before this is said and done.
            Dyslexics are teople poo...

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            • cougjunkie
              *Banned*
              • Nov 2008
              • 23223

              #126
              Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
              Funny to hear that rationale. I can see it with a kid like jabari -- a recruit of that caliber simply isn't going to play in the wcc. But loveridge is basically a wcc caliber recruit. Outside of his wcc offer, he had offers from the wac, the big sky and two doormat mwc programs.
              Right now he is a poor mans Keena Young. But I think he can develop his game and become a pretty good player.

              The big thing for him is that he will start at Utah from Day 1 and be one of their better players. They need a guy like him desperately. Like Napper said at BYU he might sit behind Collinsworth for a few years.
              *Banned*

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              • MartyFunkhouser
                Disciple of RNGesus
                • Nov 2008
                • 18747

                #127
                Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                Right now he is a poor mans Keena Young. But I think he can develop his game and become a pretty good player.

                The big thing for him is that he will start at Utah from Day 1 and be one of their better players. They need a guy like him desperately. Like Napper said at BYU he might sit behind Collinsworth for a few years.
                I'm pretty sure that immediate playing time is what got him to the Utes. If he is a poor man's Keena Young, I'll take it because that would immediately make him the best player on the Utes.

                Immediate playing time for all comers.
                As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                --Kendrick Lamar

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                • cougjunkie
                  *Banned*
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 23223

                  #128
                  Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                  I'm pretty sure that immediate playing time is what got him to the Utes. If he is a poor man's Keena Young, I'll take it because that would immediately make him the best player on the Utes.

                  Immediate playing time for all comers.
                  This is a great get for Utah. I wanted him at BYU.

                  Like MG said the lack of offers is interesting considering he dominated the AAU circuit. But I think he will be a good player and possibly a 15 and 6 guy by the time its all said and done.
                  *Banned*

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                  • MartyFunkhouser
                    Disciple of RNGesus
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 18747

                    #129
                    I think this may be the first time that Utah has ever gone to head-to-head against Rose for a player that Rose really wanted and got the player.

                    BYU's interest in Jeremy Olsen is debateable even though they did offer him. It doesn't sound like they recruited him that hard. Same goes for Foster.
                    As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                    --Kendrick Lamar

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                    • MartyFunkhouser
                      Disciple of RNGesus
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 18747

                      #130
                      So Jordan Chatman actually listed the Utes in his top 4. That seems really odd and out of nowhere. I don't expect the Utes to have any chance at him.
                      As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                      --Kendrick Lamar

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                      • SeattleUte
                        Faith crisis consultant
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 20837

                        #131
                        Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                        So Jordan Chatman actually listed the Utes in his top 4. That seems really odd and out of nowhere. I don't expect the Utes to have any chance at him.
                        espn gives him an 83. He's not at Loveridge's level (91).
                        When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                        --Jonathan Swift

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                        • SeattleUte
                          Faith crisis consultant
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 20837

                          #132
                          Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                          So Jordan Chatman actually listed the Utes in his top 4. That seems really odd and out of nowhere. I don't expect the Utes to have any chance at him.
                          Take a look at Rivals. Jabari has listed Utah but not BYU.
                          When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                          --Jonathan Swift

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                          • MartyFunkhouser
                            Disciple of RNGesus
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 18747

                            #133
                            Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                            espn gives him an 83. He's not at Loveridge's level (91).
                            I would rather have Loveridge, but I certainly would want the Utes to get Chatman. It isn't going to happen though.
                            As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                            --Kendrick Lamar

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                            • Surfah
                              Where's Wallace?
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 33726

                              #134
                              Jeff Chatman tweeted today that he bleeds 100% blue, but the decision will be all Jordan's. I'll be really disappointed if we miss out on this kid. Especially to Utah. Legacy kids are ones you cannot miss out on unless they're blue chippers.
                              "Nobody listens to Turtle."
                              -Turtle
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                              • SeattleUte
                                Faith crisis consultant
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 20837

                                #135
                                Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                                Jeff Chatman tweeted today that he bleeds 100% blue, but the decision will be all Jordan's. I'll be really disappointed if we miss out on this kid. Especially to Utah. Legacy kids are ones you cannot miss out on unless they're blue chippers.
                                I think it's more important to get the blue chippers.

                                I guess the difference between us is I have a Pac 12 perspective.
                                When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                                --Jonathan Swift

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