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  • #31
    It's the end of the world as we know it.
    Col. Klink: "Staff officers are so clever."
    Gen. Burkhalter: "Klink, I am a staff officer."
    Col. Klink: "I didn't mean you sir, you're not clever."

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    • #32
      Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
      Why don't you worry about your own team. This was your high water mark, your best season in the last two decades, and frankly, it wasn't great. It was Utah State good. Even with what returns you'll be third place at best next year. I think the Utes may overtake you. You're right about one thing; none of these departures matter much.
      Oh my.
      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
        Why don't you worry about your own team. This was your high water mark, your best season in the last two decades, and frankly, it wasn't great. It was Utah State good. Even with what returns you'll be third place at best next year. I think the Utes may overtake you. You're right about one thing; none of these departures matter much.
        As others have observed, this was excellent. Without wanting to divert attention from the thread's focus on the Utes' woes (and much attention is needed), what should we be worrying about? While this season was a high water mark over the past 20, what evidence is there that the tide is now receding? Rose is getting better each year, BYU loses to graduation only Tav, Miles and Morgan, and is bringing in (or back from the field) some very good talent.

        Meanwhile, Boylen has just asked the dealer for four cards. And you're advising BYU and the other MWC teams seated around the poker table to worry?

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        • #34
          This worries me about the near and not so near future. Another year of replacing more than 50% of the minutes gives yet another "rebuilding" year before we can appropriately judge Boylen's long term viability. The rumor was that the locker room was absolutely toxic. The exodus is a good sign that was the case. This isn't the pros. The coach is responsible for managing the locker room and the petty problems that come about. If you had to guess, I would say that Brown leaving is a sign that he didn't appreciate Henderson trying to upstage him on Offense.
          "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

          "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

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          • #35
            Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
            This isn't good, but it isn't the worst thing, either.

            It's all on Boylen next year. No excuses.
            There goes your moniker.
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            • #36
              It'll be interesting to see where Brown lands. He's essentially pulling a Richard Cheany move and will have to sit out a year to play his senior season somewhere else.

              I know runnutez, who had a cup of coffee on this board before taking off was very down on Carlon Brown and many pointed to Brown and Cyphers as the key components in the lockerroom issues on the team. If that is the case, then I say good riddance.
              "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

              Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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              • #37
                Maybe some good news: With everyone leaving, perhaps Boylen won't have any preconceived notions about who will play and who will start. Maybe he can completely rebuild with new guys and new attitudes. Too bad he ever made that flight to Beograd to fetch back Luka, I wonder how different the team would have looked this year. Cant blame him though, his trip to Australia to fetch back Luke got him a 5 seed.

                Risk of bad news: With everyone gone, Boylen may build the new team around Henderson.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Katy Lied View Post
                  Maybe some good news: With everyone leaving, perhaps Boylen won't have any preconceived notions about who will play and who will start. Maybe he can completely rebuild with new guys and new attitudes. Too bad he ever made that flight to Beograd to fetch back Luka, I wonder how different the team would have looked this year. Cant blame him though, his trip to Australia to fetch back Luke got him a 5 seed.

                  Risk of bad news: With everyone gone, Boylen may build the new team around Henderson.
                  Hopefully an offseason of D-IAA weight training will make Foster, Washburn, and Glover viable options (so he doesn't have to build around Washburn).

                  And if you think building a team around Washburn is bad, just think if he has to do it around Tavita.
                  "I don't know the origin of said bitch booming."-Art Vandelay
                  "Hot Lunch posted awhile back on this. He knows more than anyone except for maybe BO."-Seattle Ute

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by SoonerCoug View Post
                    There goes your moniker.
                    Actually I think the moniker still works beautifully.
                    "Nobody listens to Turtle."
                    -Turtle
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                    • #40
                      Look I liked Brown but to be honest he never was able to make the jump. He had all physical skills and at times showed he can be a difference maker (first unlv game and the michigan game). That being said he would disappear against inferior opponents make bad passes and shoot terribly. In short he was a more athletic Drca.

                      As for Hines he showed promise but for some reason boylen likes tavita so I can't blame hines for wanting to leave.
                      "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

                      "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
                        Hopefully an offseason of D-IAA weight training will make Foster, Washburn, and Glover viable options (so he doesn't have to build around Washburn).
                        .
                        Unfortunately, I dont think a stronger Washburn will solve his basketball woes. He has such a perfect body for playing defense (with those long arms) but no understanding of where to situate his body on defense. Not to purposely bring a cougar into it, but Billy Donovan remarked how everyone thinks that Jimmer is lazy on defense, but that was not true. Donovan said that Fredette knew all of the angles to take, and expended the least amount of energy to be where he could disrupt the offense. (We've all played racquetball against the guy who could cut off all the angles with the slightest amount of effort). I saw Washburn with his back to the action time after time this year.

                        As far as Foster is concerned, I'd make him wear knee pads and play defense on his knees. Besides taking pressure off his healing ankle, he'd be forced to block out, and do many of the defensive techniques he's never learned because he didn't have to with his height.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                          Actually I think the moniker still works beautifully.
                          "I don't know the origin of said bitch booming."-Art Vandelay
                          "Hot Lunch posted awhile back on this. He knows more than anyone except for maybe BO."-Seattle Ute

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
                            Hopefully an offseason of D-IAA weight training will make Foster, Washburn, and Glover viable options (so he doesn't have to build around Washburn).

                            And if you think building a team around Washburn is bad, just think if he has to do it around Tavita.
                            Speaks volumes. I can see why the PAC-10 is so excited for June 11th.
                            A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life. - Mohammad Ali

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by CJF View Post
                              Speaks volumes. I can see why the PAC-10 is so excited for June 11th.
                              Son of a bitch.
                              "I don't know the origin of said bitch booming."-Art Vandelay
                              "Hot Lunch posted awhile back on this. He knows more than anyone except for maybe BO."-Seattle Ute

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                                Even with what returns you'll be third place at best next year. I think the Utes may overtake you.
                                This is the worst yet in a long line of horrible predictions. New Mexico, UNLV, BYU, SDSU, and a 14 win team that just had it's leading scoreer, a would-be senior, transfer, and you choose this moment to disemble? To suggest BYU will finish at best in 3rd isn't the ridiculous part, in fact may be close to accurate but you couldn't stop there. You couldn't resist a complete meltdown. You had to go and completely show your bitterness by suggesting the Utes finish ahead of BYU and by implication finish ahead of one of the other 3 teams that return a majority of their very talented underclassmen. That's not a bitter post at all.

                                Classic SU. Thanks. You may have successfully added a new chapter in the book of Exodus with that one.
                                "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                                "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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