At what point did you / will you take the coronavirus epidemic seriously?

[Northwestcoug]

Yes, I addressed that in my post. She wanted some shock and awe before she let us know that she doesn’t actually believe it.

Right. I’m saying I’m not so sure she was trying to ‘shock and awe’ with the first statement. It sounds more like a careless phrase to me rather than hysterics.

[Mormon Red Death]

https://twitter.com/aginnt/status/1290660764529963010?s=19

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[old_gregg]

https://twitter.com/aginnt/status/12...529963010?s=19

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this line of reasoning is so funny. risk is cumulative.

[Uncle Ted]

Hey, a good reason to fly again... free funerals!

In A Twist On Loyalty Programs, Emirates Is Promising Travelers A Free Funeral If Infected With Covid
[...]
Emirates’ insurance for travelers stipulates that if one of its passengers is diagnosed with COVID-19 during their journey, the Dubai-based airline will cover their medical expenses, up to €150,000 (about $176,000). It will pay €100 ($118) per day for quarantine costs – such as a hotel room – for up to two weeks.


And if the worst happens, Emirates will offer €1,500 (about $1,765) for a passenger's funeral. The insurance is automatic with ticketing, effective immediately, and carries no fees for travelers.
[...]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/avidan/.../#1161ce0943e3

[Jeff Lebowski]

this line of reasoning is so funny. risk is cumulative.

Isn't Aaron Ginn that knucklehead that came out with that viral article on COVID early in the pandemic that sounded authoritative but ended up being completely debunked?

[tooblue]

'Sorry to burst the magic bubble' says Florida lawmaker of hydroxychloroquine as he battles COVID-19

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/08/04/hydroxychloroquine-florida-lawmaker-covid-says-drug-not-magic/3291167001/

"After two weeks battling COVID-19, State Rep. Randy Fine (R-Palm Bay) posted on Facebook that he needed his lungs X-rayed as his symptoms now included a recurring fever and a hacking chest cough. He remarked that the hydroxychloroquine therapy he had been on proved ineffective.

'I’ve had a cold who knows how many times. I have never had to deal with anything like this. And for those who want to believe that (hydroxychloroquine) is some kind of magic solution, I’ve been taking that too (I don’t oppose it, but I am tired of people pretending it is magic),' he wrote in the post."

[Moliere]

'Sorry to burst the magic bubble' says Florida lawmaker of hydroxychloroquine as he battles COVID-19

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/08/04/hydroxychloroquine-florida-lawmaker-covid-says-drug-not-magic/3291167001/

"After two weeks battling COVID-19, State Rep. Randy Fine (R-Palm Bay) posted on Facebook that he needed his lungs X-rayed as his symptoms now included a recurring fever and a hacking chest cough. He remarked that the hydroxychloroquine therapy he had been on proved ineffective.

'I’ve had a cold who knows how many times. I have never had to deal with anything like this. And for those who want to believe that (hydroxychloroquine) is some kind of magic solution, I’ve been taking that too (I don’t oppose it, but I am tired of people pretending it is magic),' he wrote in the post."

So he is giving anecdotal evidence that it doesn't work. Great.

[wapiti]

Why is % of positive tests an important measure? They test people with symptoms. Isn't that just a measure of how much COVID is out there compared to other bugs? And since other bugs are lower in the summer and COVID doesn't care about the weather, wouldn't we expect a higher % of COVID now?

[falafel]

So he is giving anecdotal evidence that it doesn't work. Great.

Well, he IS a Florida lawmaker! Extra deference is warranted.

[Mormon Red Death]

https://sph.umich.edu/news/2020posts...-immunity.html


How many tests does the United States need to conduct to control further spread?

Everybody wants a magic number for how many tests are needed in order to control the pandemic. The problem is there is no specific number. We know that we need more testing than what we are currently doing, but hitting a specific number isn't going to solve the problem at hand. Here's an example. Right now, during the summer, our ability to practice social distancing measures is easier because we can spend time outdoors and have additional space to move around. Looking ahead to the fall and winter, we'll spend more time indoors and will be in closer proximity to one another for longer periods of time. Add in the fact that COVID-19 will contend with other viruses such as the flu during these months, and we'll likely need to conduct more tests because people will present symptoms that can appear with either virus, such as a cough or a fever.

Building a national system with more laboratories, machines and well-trained testing professionals is essential to increase the number of tests that we can conduct and decrease the amount of time it takes for people to receive their results. We are not in a situation where we do not have enough of the physical tests or swabs. It's the capacity at which we can analyze the tests and provide results that needs to increase. I'm hoping we can quickly get to a place where someone could go into a local pharmacy or testing site, receive a test and get their results right away. That would be a huge change in our ability to control the virus.


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[Moliere]

The ice machines in the office were turned off today, out of an abundance of caution. However, the Keurig machines, refrigerators, freezers, copy machines, etc. are all still plugged in and working. But god forbid a couple people (there's probably five people total on the floor) touch the same ice scoop a couple times a day.

[Commando]

Why is % of positive tests an important measure? They test people with symptoms. Isn't that just a measure of how much COVID is out there compared to other bugs? And since other bugs are lower in the summer and COVID doesn't care about the weather, wouldn't we expect a higher % of COVID now?

That's a good question. I'm sure the medical/scientific community has a good reason for recording that metric. And it's not just people with symptoms who are testing, but people who have been exposed to people who have been known to test positive.

Covid actually doesn't do well in the heat, but that has nothing to do with where it's spread; e.g. here in Arizona everybody is indoors in air conditioned venues. It's not getting spread out by the pool in the 100+ degree weather, probably, but that's almost irrelevant.

[falafel]

The ice machines in the office were turned off today, out of an abundance of caution. However, the Keurig machines, refrigerators, freezers, copy machines, etc. are all still plugged in and working. But god forbid a couple people (there's probably five people total on the floor) touch the same ice scoop a couple times a day.

Sounds like you're still not taking the coronavirus epidemic seriously.

[Commando]

So he is giving anecdotal evidence that it doesn't work. Great.

That supports the scientific consensus on the matter? I'll allow it.

[Commando]

https://sph.umich.edu/news/2020posts...-immunity.html


How many tests does the United States need to conduct to control further spread?

Everybody wants a magic number for how many tests are needed in order to control the pandemic. The problem is there is no specific number. We know that we need more testing than what we are currently doing, but hitting a specific number isn't going to solve the problem at hand. Here's an example. Right now, during the summer, our ability to practice social distancing measures is easier because we can spend time outdoors and have additional space to move around. Looking ahead to the fall and winter, we'll spend more time indoors and will be in closer proximity to one another for longer periods of time. Add in the fact that COVID-19 will contend with other viruses such as the flu during these months, and we'll likely need to conduct more tests because people will present symptoms that can appear with either virus, such as a cough or a fever.

Building a national system with more laboratories, machines and well-trained testing professionals is essential to increase the number of tests that we can conduct and decrease the amount of time it takes for people to receive their results. We are not in a situation where we do not have enough of the physical tests or swabs. It's the capacity at which we can analyze the tests and provide results that needs to increase. I'm hoping we can quickly get to a place where someone could go into a local pharmacy or testing site, receive a test and get their results right away. That would be a huge change in our ability to control the virus.

I don't think the number of tests matter without a central national strategy and protocol. We'll just be super informed about how many people are getting it and doing nothing about it.