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  • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
    Trump just signed the bill to put sanctions on Russia. That doesn't seem like something he would do if he coordinated with Russia with their meddling in the election.


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    he signed it, but unenthusiasticly. There were no cameras present and wrote several signing statements complaining about the bill. It was veto proof. I think he signed because of pressure from some rational people in his inner circle, aware of how not doing so would look. He took his time in signing it. Sec of State said Trump dislikes the bill.

    Here's an article about some of the signing statements: Trump Signs Russia Sanctions Bill, But Lays Out His Concerns About the Law - Bloomberg
    https://apple.news/A4BSFl3DhSKCdCocAciw_6Q

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    • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
      I didn't read that entire article but looking at the quoted portion it strikes me that it is precisely that type of arrogant, elitist crap that caused so many people to vote for Trump in the first place.
      PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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      • Originally posted by creekster View Post
        I didn't read that entire article but looking at the quoted portion it strikes me that it is precisely that type of arrogant, elitist crap that caused so many people to vote for Trump in the first place.
        Clearly a trump-hating snowflake!
        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
        "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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        • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
          he signed it, but unenthusiasticly. There were no cameras present and wrote several signing statements complaining about the bill. It was veto proof. I think he signed because of pressure from some rational people in his inner circle, aware of how not doing so would look. He took his time in signing it. Sec of State said Trump dislikes the bill.

          Here's an article about some of the signing statements: Trump Signs Russia Sanctions Bill, But Lays Out His Concerns About the Law - Bloomberg
          https://apple.news/A4BSFl3DhSKCdCocAciw_6Q
          Of course he dislikes the bill. Any president would dislike the bill. It ties the president's hands on Russia. This is exactly the problem with the whole russian issue: Trump signs but 'dislikes' the bill ergo he is 'colluding' with the Russians! IF onyl he had smiled on camera when he signed it!

          IN fact, his reservations abotu the bill are generally correct, IMO, but he has only himself and his ridiculous conduct in office to blame.
          PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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          • I like the bill. It tells Putin to eat shit, whereas, to borrow a turn of phrase, Trump would rather keep massaging his inner thigh for no discernible reason.
            "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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            • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
              Clearly a trump-hating snowflake!
              Do you think the opinion is well-reasoned? the quotation concludes that American democracy is 'precarious' becasue 38% of the people approve of D. Trump? Thats not only arrogant crap it's also just stupid. There is not a lot of critical thinking to support that conclusion.
              PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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              • Originally posted by creekster View Post
                Do you think the opinion is well-reasoned? the quotation concludes that American democracy is 'precarious' becasue 38% of the people approve of D. Trump? Thats not only arrogant crap it's also just stupid. There is not a lot of critical thinking to support that conclusion.
                Creekster, this is an incredibly patronizing question/comment.
                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                • Originally posted by Commando View Post
                  I like the bill. It tells Putin to eat shit, whereas, to borrow a turn of phrase, Trump would rather keep massaging his inner thigh for no discernible reason.
                  Not really. As I understand it, it tells the president that he cant change sanctions without congressional approval. No other president would approve of that approach to foreign policy. Of course, no other president would likely have drawn such a bill.
                  PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                  • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                    Creekster, this is an incredibly patronizing question/comment.
                    Its not patronizing. I am not treating it with apparent kindness. I think it is stupid and have made that pretty clear.
                    PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                    • Originally posted by creekster View Post
                      Of course he dislikes the bill. Any president would dislike the bill. It ties the president's hands on Russia. This is exactly the problem with the whole russian issue: Trump signs but 'dislikes' the bill ergo he is 'colluding' with the Russians! IF onyl he had smiled on camera when he signed it!

                      IN fact, his reservations abotu the bill are generally correct, IMO, but he has only himself and his ridiculous conduct in office to blame.
                      I agree with this. Preventing the President from making changes might bother me with pretty much any past president, but with this loose cannon I can understand the need for it. Trump's belittling of his own intelligence agencies and his weird praise for Putin and things Russian have both sides very concerned. Trump may well be innocent of all the things the Dems think Mueller is looking at, but Trump has consistently behaved as if he were guilty and thus, as you note, he can blame himself for this bill.

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                      • Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                        Nice? I assume you mean that in the sense of effectiveness, not graciousness, since he insulted a very broad swath of leaders and the status quo, including nearly everyone seated behind him (yes, I'm sure that was his intent and it energized his base). For me, I think George W. Bush summed up my reaction most succinctly when, as he was walking off the dais, he was heard to mutter, "That was some weird shit." Bless him.

                        Concerning another great speech, Trump has said that the Boy Scouts told him that his speech to the Jamboree was "the greatest speech ever given" to the BSA. The BSA denies anyone within the organization said that (anyone who read that speech and thinks it was even appropriate, much less great, is daft), and has publicly apologized for that embarrassment.
                        Of course it was the greatest speech ever given to the BSA. He gives the 'greatest speech ever' everywhere he goes!

                        He told the New York Times this month of his speech in Poland: “Enemies of mine are saying it was the greatest speech ever made on foreign soil by a president.”

                        He told the Associated Press in April of his speech to a joint session of Congress in January: “Some people said it was the single best speech ever made in that chamber.”
                        "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                        "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                        - SeattleUte

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                        • Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
                          Of course it was the greatest speech ever given to the BSA. He gives the 'greatest speech ever' everywhere he goes!


                          More accomplishments!
                          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                          "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                          "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                          • Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
                            Of course it was the greatest speech ever given to the BSA. He gives the 'greatest speech ever' everywhere he goes!
                            Ha, and such analysis is contagious. I still laugh at Rudy Giuliani who said of Trump's August 2016 foreign policy speech (this was after Rudy's Body Snatcher's pod was placed next to him in the night), "I think this is the best speech that any Republican, at the least, has ever given." Lincoln was a dullard, by comparison.

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                            • omh, what a knucklehead.
                              I'm like LeBron James.
                              -mpfunk

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                              • Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                                I agree with this. Preventing the President from making changes might bother me with pretty much any past president, but with this loose cannon I can understand the need for it. Trump's belittling of his own intelligence agencies and his weird praise for Putin and things Russian have both sides very concerned. Trump may well be innocent of all the things the Dems think Mueller is looking at, but Trump has consistently behaved as if he were guilty and thus, as you note, he can blame himself for this bill.
                                What does it tell you when creekster is giving the most balanced analysis?
                                "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                                Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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