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  • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
    I don’t quite follow the issue with the 747 being given by Qatar. Is it because it’s a gift or is the issue because Qatar is a state that basically allows modern day slavery? Hasn’t the US wanted new planes for Air Force One for a long time?

    Im sure there’s good reason to be against the gift but I’m admitting to my ignorance here.
    I appreciate your candor. You should assume ill-intent with Trump at this point.

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    • I'm no financial genius, but won't all these tax breaks drive up inflation? Seems like tax deductions for car loans would drive up costs for cars as well.

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      • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
        I don’t quite follow the issue with the 747 being given by Qatar. Is it because it’s a gift or is the issue because Qatar is a state that basically allows modern day slavery? Hasn’t the US wanted new planes for Air Force One for a long time?

        Im sure there’s good reason to be against the gift but I’m admitting to my ignorance here.
        If you aren't paying for the product, you are the product.

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        • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
          I don’t quite follow the issue with the 747 being given by Qatar. Is it because it’s a gift or is the issue because Qatar is a state that basically allows modern day slavery? Hasn’t the US wanted new planes for Air Force One for a long time?

          Im sure there’s good reason to be against the gift but I’m admitting to my ignorance here.
          Other than the Constitution strictly forbidding gifts to the US government by foreign royalty and Trump's lawyers' way around this is to say it's actually a gift to Trump personally? There are practical security reasons why this is a stupid idea that LVA laid out but from an ethical and yes very strictly legal perspective this stinks. Rank and file federal employees can't accept a cup of coffee from their contractors without looking over their shoulder but the President can accept a $400 million jet from a terror-supporting foreign power? I say again GTFO.

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          • Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post
            I'm no financial genius, but won't all these tax breaks drive up inflation? Seems like tax deductions for car loans would drive up costs for cars as well.
            Yes, it’ll effectively lower the cost of borrowing for a car, which will increase demand and therefore increase prices. It’s kind of like what the government did to college tuition
            "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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              • Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post

                Other than the Constitution strictly forbidding gifts to the US government by foreign royalty and Trump's lawyers' way around this is to say it's actually a gift to Trump personally? There are practical security reasons why this is a stupid idea that LVA laid out but from an ethical and yes very strictly legal perspective this stinks. Rank and file federal employees can't accept a cup of coffee from their contractors without looking over their shoulder but the President can accept a $400 million jet from a terror-supporting foreign power? I say again GTFO.
                If he were smart, and a democrat, he’d have Don Jr receive it as a gift instead…
                "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                • The bribes and corruption with this administration are right out in the open bur Republicans think it's ok. Or at the very least would never do anything about it.

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                  • Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                    If he were smart, and a democrat, he’d have Don Jr receive it as a gift instead…
                    Moli, the democrats are not more corrupt than MAGA nor are they more skilled at being corrupt than team Trump.

                    It's just Republicans don't give a shit about what he does.

                    Now the TikTok people are openingly bribing Trump by buying his shitty cryptocurrency.

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                    • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                      The bribes and corruption with this administration are right out in the open bur Republicans think it's ok. Or at the very least would never do anything about it.
                      The public facing justification is "the dems were corrupt too," but I suspect most know this is beyond the pale but are too afraid of their constituency and losing their positions of power they say nothing. They are gigantic cowards.

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                      • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

                        Moli, the democrats are not more corrupt than MAGA nor are they more skilled at being corrupt than team Trump.

                        It's just Republicans don't give a shit about what he does.

                        Now the TikTok people are openingly bribing Trump by buying his shitty cryptocurrency.
                        I didn’t say democrats were more corrupt. They are clearly corrupt but the order of magnitude compared to the GOP I leave that to you to determine.
                        "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                        • Originally posted by USUC View Post

                          The public facing justification is "the dems were corrupt too," but I suspect most know this is beyond the pale but are too afraid of their constituency and losing their positions of power they say nothing. They are gigantic cowards.
                          Trump’s Qatari Plane Gift Causes Republicans to Raise Security Concerns - WSJ

                          Plenty seem to be saying it's an issue
                          "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                          • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                            not this guy:https://www.cougarstadium.com/forum/...71#post2343071

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                            • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                              Wake me when they aren’t scared to do something about it.

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                              • Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                                I didn’t say democrats were more corrupt. They are clearly corrupt but the order of magnitude compared to the GOP I leave that to you to determine.
                                You don't see a difference in magnitude? Bob Menendez was found with less than $600,000 in bribes from Egypt. Trump is openly talking about accepting a $400M bribe and his base is all for it. WTF.
                                Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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                                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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